.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[mt terry d]

Listened to a jvb podcast yesterday with a Hornady guy who talked about all the animals they shot in Africa with the 22 arc and the 22 creed. At the end of the show they concluded it's a whitetail and smaller cartridge. Jvb said it'll probably kill perfectly 9/10 times but it just doesn't have that margin of error for the 1/10.

It would be interesting to know how many shots fall out of the "margin of error"
with heavier recoiling rifles. I betting more than 1/10.

 

[Gettincloser]

Who is jvb

Joseph Von Benedict

 

[Camv]

Doesn't he make money selling articles to magazines that spout "penetration and mushrooming"?
I'm sure some magazine sponsors would have a few things to say if they learned he was telling people a reliably opening match bullet will do everything you need.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

My new MT mags. Be advised the cartridges are 2.475”. 75 ELDM.


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Can you take a photo of where the round catches on the bolt like Form did here?

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Mambamag 10 round. Metal feed lips, follower spring seems quite stiff- A little shorter than an AI 10 rounder- Factory 4 round magazine. Look at amount of base that is presented to the bolt face (black marker is line from Mambamag)- Mambamag, much higher presentation-...

rokslide.com

 

[DB29]

First .223 kill. 77gr TMK, 100yds broadside. 1 shot, through the lungs. Buck ran 100yds downhill. No blood trail. Pics of the entry and where the jacket of the bullet was recovered just under the hide on the far side.

 

[SloppyJ]

Well I'm a believer now! My son shot a little button buck this morning at around 40yds. 77tmk, 24.2gr varget, cci450s, starline brass. Entrance was on left shoulder and exit was at the point of the right shoulder. Slightly quartered. The deer came up on it back legs and fell over never to get up. This was his first deer with his very own rifle. 16" Tikka, DD wolfhunter, Trijicon Credo 3x9.

 

[Chris_in_Idaho]

Well I'm a believer now! My son shot a little button buck this morning at around 40yds. 77tmk, 24.2gr varget, cci450s, starline brass. Entrance was on left shoulder and exit was at the point of the right shoulder. Slightly quartered. The deer came up on it back legs and fell over never to get up. This was his first deer with his very own rifle. 16" Tikka, DD wolfhunter, Trijicon Credo 3x9.

I love the "Good Luck" on the brass!

 

[BLJ]

Well I'm a believer now! My son shot a little button buck this morning at around 40yds. 77tmk, 24.2gr varget, cci450s, starline brass. Entrance was on left shoulder and exit was at the point of the right shoulder. Slightly quartered. The deer came up on it back legs and fell over never to get up. This was his first deer with his very own rifle. 16" Tikka, DD wolfhunter, Trijicon Credo 3x9.

Congratulations to the boy.

What’s your velocity with that load? Thanks.

 

[Thegman]

Deer results are getting redundant at this point, but...

7 deer here on Kodiak this week. 4 with 73ELD-M, 3 with 77TMKs.

One went maybe 30 yards, the other six zero yards.

My 3 were with 73ELD-M. Killed great and the jacket base seemed to stay intact a little more than the 77TMKs, but maybe less penetration overall. I only shot spikes, never even saw any bigger bucks. Every year is different.

Hearts were essentially split in two on a couple of mine.

 

[Pharmseller]

Can you take a photo of where the round catches on the bolt like Form did here?

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Mambamag 10 round. Metal feed lips, follower spring seems quite stiff- A little shorter than an AI 10 rounder- Factory 4 round magazine. Look at amount of base that is presented to the bolt face (black marker is line from Mambamag)- Mambamag, much higher presentation-...

rokslide.com

Sure

 

[SloppyJ]

I love the "Good Luck" on the brass!

Thank you. We loaded up a few together for this hunt. He picked the "one" and i wrote that on there for him. Got a picture of him holding it after he shot too. I thought it was fun.

He also passed on a very large 10pt because it stopped behind a tree while trailing a doe and all he could see was the back half of it. I had a perfect view of it sitting next to him but I was super proud of that moment of control from a 7yo kid. He was hard on himself and then the little button buck came running up. That one will eat better anyway.

 

[PaulDogs]

The Mamba Mag 10 round Tikka 223 mag works well so far through three different Tikka’s.

Will Stone glacier Bino harness mag pouch hold them?

 

[Formidilosus]

Will Stone glacier Bino harness mag pouch hold them?

Yep.

 

[Gettincloser]

I was not even thinking about pictures but we had one heck of a day with the Tikka T3x and 77 TMK. We saw a lot of doeand by 10am decided it was time to head back to the house and shot the pesky chattery squirel. Hit quartering towards but mostly facing me. Front half of squirlooked like a canoe! The "tenderloins" and hind legs were still there so they went in a pot. On our walk back, we spot a flock of turkey. My brother shot a Tom. Full pass through but interesting enough, we captured the jacket of the bullet in the turkey. (In and out the hip joints on both sides...) then the evening hunt I was able to get a good mature buck with a small 1" drop tine! Last light, quartered to. Shot hit just in front of the point of the shoulder, taking out the top of the heart and the front of both lungs. The bullet did not tough the liner of the ribs on the far side. (At that angle, I would not expect it to.) The deer went all of 3 feet... straight down! No recoil, suppressed, no drama, this is delightful!

Here is an after photo of the squirrel and turkey. My phone was dead so I will wait to get photos of the buck. Great weekend of filling the freezer.

 

[Chris_in_Idaho]

Nice. I wish we could shoot Turkeys with rifles in Idaho. I see Turkeys every time I'm hunting something else...

 

[The Guide]

Nice. I wish we could shoot Turkeys with rifles in Idaho. I see Turkeys every time I'm hunting something else...

We can in the fall in Montana. I have yet to do it but our season runs until January 1st so there is time aster big game season.

Jay

 

[Reddish]

I was not even thinking about pictures but we had one heck of a day with the Tikka T3x and 77 TMK. We saw a lot of doeand by 10am decided it was time to head back to the house and shot the pesky chattery squirel. Hit quartering towards but mostly facing me. Front half of squirlooked like a canoe! The "tenderloins" and hind legs were still there so they went in a pot. On our walk back, we spot a flock of turkey. My brother shot a Tom. Full pass through but interesting enough, we captured the jacket of the bullet in the turkey. (In and out the hip joints on both sides...) then the evening hunt I was able to get a good mature buck with a small 1" drop tine! Last light, quartered to. Shot hit just in front of the point of the shoulder, taking out the top of the heart and the front of both lungs. The bullet did not tough the liner of the ribs on the far side. (At that angle, I would not expect it to.) The deer went all of 3 feet... straight down! No recoil, suppressed, no drama, this is delightful!

Here is an after photo of the squirrel and turkey. My phone was dead so I will wait to get photos of the buck. Great weekend of filling the freezer.

Might need to add squirrel to the title of the thread now…good work!

 

[E.Shell]

Might need to add squirrel to the title of the thread now…good work!

I've gotta admit, I'm surprised the 77 TMK killed a squirrel...and left anything to eat.

 

[SloppyJ]

Congratulations to the boy.

What’s your velocity with that load? Thanks.

Id have to check my notes on that when I get home but I think it's around 2600. None of my loads in this gun were ever really super quick even being close to pressure. I'll take a look at my log when we make it in from hunting this morning.

 

[roosiebull]

Another data point

Shot this buck yesterday with a 77tmk at around 2000fps. Shot was quartered to and got the back of scapula on entrance, came out mid rib cage

The entrance in the cavity was big, probably 1.5” hole you could see through, exit very similar, lungs were completely demo’d

Saw the impact at the shot, he hopped and then started staggering right away, I was tracking him in the scope waiting for him to stop (he was coming my way) and as soon as he stopped I was pressing the trigger and he fell as the trigger broke and I grazed his back on that shot

He was down in less than 10 seconds, can’t ask for any more from a bullet

Bullet entered on the left side