.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Castle Rock]

You would have to be some kind of masochist

 

[ShootOkHuntWorse]

Good day in the basement today, until I ran out of TAC......
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That's 573 TMKs & 500 77gr OTM

I've still got another 600 pieces of primed brass & 400 TMKs to go. I just need Natchez to hurry it up with the powder!

How much Tac? I think I need to decrease mine from 24.5.

 

[robtattoo]

You pump all that out in one day on a single stage?

Oh my good lord no! The most I've ever managed on my Forster is 400 & I could barely move my arm for 3 days!
Dillon 550 all the way, these days.

How much Tac? I think I need to decrease mine from 24.5.

Dammit. I just ordered 3lb. PM me a price though, I might have to buy some more.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

In general I use the most effective (read- terminally) bullet in each caliber/cartridge available. I moderate damage by reducing caliber/cartridge- not by taking spark plugs out of a V8 because it’s too fast. If you want less meat damage, drop down in caliber/cartridge. Though, there still will be lost meat if you hit bone.

So, I would use TMK’s or ELD-M’s/X’s regardless of caliber. Impact velocity does play a large part in tissue disruption, along with bullet construction. For close range doe/meat hunts- I would/do use Barnes or other narrow wounding bullets in 223’s.

Re: taking spark plugs out of the V8 / larger caliber bullets being "tuned down" to not cause as much meat damage. Is there any research / literature on that?

 

[ShootOkHuntWorse]

Oh my good lord no! The most I've ever managed on my Forster is 400 & I could barely move my arm for 3 days!
Dillon 550 all the way, these days.

Dammit. I just ordered 3lb. PM me a price though, I might have to buy some more.

Sorry I meant how many grains of powder do you use for your 77grn with Tac loads haha! I’m on a tight component budget so tac is great

 

[JPeters218]

Finally jumped on the train. Stainless tikka being cut and threaded at 16” as speak. 100 rds of black hills 77 tmk’s on the way. UM rings, and a 2.5-10x56 Accupoint on the way. Looking forward to testing it out on some mn whitetail this year

 

[ElPollo]

Re: taking spark plugs out of the V8 / larger caliber bullets being "tuned down" to not cause as much meat damage. Is there any research / literature on that?

I believe what form is talking about is using what the industry calls controlled expansion bullets versus those optimized to do maximum damage.

 

[Formidilosus]

Re: taking spark plugs out of the V8 / larger caliber bullets being "tuned down" to not cause as much meat damage. Is there any research / literature on that?

What do you mean? Are you wanting to see what 30cal maximized wounds look like?

 

[robtattoo]

Sorry I meant how many grains of powder do you use for your 77grn with Tac loads haha! I’m on a tight component budget so tac is great

Hahaha! Whoops!

My Tikka likes the same as you: 24.5 The Ruger prefers 24.2 & I have yet to work up a load for my Uberlight AR, but if it isn't one of those 2, one of those 2 will do. Shit's complicated enough!

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

What do you mean? Are you wanting to see what 30cal maximized wounds look like?

That would be great.

 

[Formidilosus]

That would be great.

 

[BLJ]

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Is every picture of an exit wound?

 

[Firth]

Hahaha! Whoops!

My Tikka likes the same as you: 24.5 The Ruger prefers 24.2 & I have yet to work up a load for my Uberlight AR, but if it isn't one of those 2, one of those 2 will do. Shit's complicated enough!

This. I keep it simple, too.

I experiment with new bullets from time to time, but have two main loads. A cheaper 75 bthp load and a 73 eld load. I don't bother tuning to a specific gun and just shoot those in everything. I might see an accuracy difference in a tuned load, but I'm not a good enough shot for it to matter from field positions.

 

[Formidilosus]

Is every picture of an exit wound?

No.

#2, 5, 8 are entrances.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

No.

#2, 5, 8 are entrances.

Wow, those are incredible. Were those commercially available .30 cal bullets or experimental?

 

[Formidilosus]

Wow, those are incredible. Were those commercially available .30 cal bullets or experimental?

Commercial. 178gr A-Max, 175 and 190gr SMK with points opened.

 

[zdc1775]

Monos. Tipped TTSX, or LRX in the mag and twist will support. I personally mostly use a bullet that isn’t commercially available.

I mostly use the TTSX when I want deeper penetration or "cleaner" kills, but I am curious about these bullets. I know you said they are not commercially available, but are they experimental or more like lathe turned customs? Understand if you don't want to go into too much detail but still curious.

 

[RockAndSage]

Commercial. 178gr A-Max, 175 and 190gr SMK with points opened.

Thanks for sharing that, it's extremely interesting. Any idea of distance/velocity? Also, what cartridge?

Asking for a bear friend.

 

[Formidilosus]

Thanks for sharing that, it's extremely interesting. Any idea of distance/velocity? Also, what cartridge?

Asking for a bear friend.

Between 3,000 and 2,400fps impact velocity.

 

[Tahr]

Adding to the 30 cal thing. 168 Nosler BT @ 3150mv (300saum). Exit, 230 yards.