Form, you make a convincing argument...This is what everyone is concerned about a bullet getting through-
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I don’t think anyone has stated that a .224 bullet is the “best” choice for truly large game, you couldn’t say that about any caliber. But, neither I, nor anyone I know that has killed medium and big game with the 223/77gr TMK has walked up to an animal and wished for “more”. If you’re into gut shooting, well you do you. If your into putting it into the front half, it works fine.
Form, you make a convincing argument...
It was hard for me to believe as well. I grew up where it was expected to shoot a 30 something magnum, so they don’t run at all, this is deer mind you.
After the 4 I shot with the 77 tmk, there isn’t a shot I wouldn’t take with it, that I would with a 30 cal magnum inside 300 yards.
I think there are a couple segments of bone in that shoulder that would be very concerning to me if shooting a .223. The thick spine that stands up along the middle of the scapula being one, and the knuckle where it connects to the leg being the other. On a quartering to shot I'd normally want to hit right around the point of the knuckle to make sure I got both lungs and possibly the heart.This is what everyone is concerned about a bullet getting through-
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I don’t think anyone has stated that a .224 bullet is the “best” choice for truly large game, you couldn’t say that about any caliber. But, neither I, nor anyone I know that has killed medium and big game with the 223/77gr TMK has walked up to an animal and wished for “more”. If you’re into gut shooting, well you do you. If your into putting it into the front half, it works fine.
I think there are a couple segments of bone in that shoulder that would be very concerning to me if shooting a .223. The thick spine that stands up along the middle of the scapula being one
I think there are a couple segments of bone in that shoulder that would be very concerning to me if shooting a .223. The thick spine that stands up along the middle of the scapula being one, and the knuckle where it connects to the leg being the other. On a quartering to shot I'd normally want to hit right around the point of the knuckle to make sure I got both lungs and possibly the heart.
I have no personal experience to say a .223 with a fragmenting bullet such as the TMK wouldn't consistently make it through those bones with enough energy to shred both lungs, but I have some doubts. Aside from that, I can't think of another shot I'd take with my '06 and TTSX's that wouldn't be as doable with the .223/77TMK, given the results documented here. I still prefer not to have lead in my meat, which has its own ramifications, but you can consider me mostly convinced.
It's similar to archery.........shoulder blades are easy. It's the knuckle that's generally the problem.This is what everyone is concerned about a bullet getting through
Class act. We should meet.......without keyboards.Put me on ignore if you can't handle someone speaking their mind . Funny, I took a quick look at your history, you seem to have some troll blood in you and a real keyboard tough guy . FO
All I can say is, I sure hope the 69 gr TMKs I have on backorder at MidwayUSA get here by next season.......
Good to know, probably should have tried a box of 77 gr in my 1-9 just to make sure they wouldn't work. If I get them before spring I'd like to shoot a coyote or two to see what happens.They will work on deer, but penetrations is a bit shallow.
Good to know, probably should have tried a box of 77 gr in my 1-9 just to make sure they wouldn't work. If I get them before spring I'd like to shoot a coyote or two to see what happens.
Noted! Thanks!I’d also look at the 75gr Gold Dot. That should work in a 1-9”.
I’ve read from pg 1 and have learned quite a bit. My one burning question is this:
For those without a .223 (or in states that prohibit their use on big game) what factory ammo, for say a 6.5, would be synonyms with TMK? I saw that Sierra makes a 130gr .264 pill but haven’t had any luck finding factory loaded ammo with it. This thread was intertwined with comments about the ELD-M penetrating less than the TMK, but generally seems like a good substitute. Am I correct in my thinking?
I think I’m following. For clarification, if you had to pick one factory 6.5 load for the same critters listed in the title, what’re you personally grabbing?I don’t know that you want that. What the 77gr TMK does is maximize tissue disruption in a 223 while achieving acceptable penetration. If you do the same for a 6.5CM for example, you going to loose a lot of meat.
But if you do, the 140 and 147gr ELD-M and I like the 143gr ELD-X as well for a bit less splash. The 130TMK has been good but relatively limited experience with it so far.
I think I’m following. For clarification, if you had to pick one factory 6.5 load for the same critters listed in the title, what’re you personally grabbing?