BCsteve
WKR
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- Sep 22, 2013
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- BC, Canada
Nice bull and great pics!
At similar fps if you cant kill a deer with a 73 to 80 grn ELDM you wont with a 77TMK. The TMK isn't magic. Accuracy over cult factor every day.Deer only here in Oregon.
My ELDM load falls below 1800 fps around 600 yards.
I‘m just asking about the difference in bullet performance.
Forgive me but I don’t see your point.
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Conversely, if you can't kill a deer with a 1.5 MOA TMK you won't with a .75 MOA ELD. Terminal performance over meaningless difference in precision every day.At similar fps if you cant kill a deer with a 73 to 80 grn ELDM you wont with a 77TMK. The TMK isn't magic. Accuracy over cult factor every day.
Yes I can agree with that.Conversely, if you can't kill a deer with a 1.5 MOA TMK you won't with a .75 MOA ELD. Terminal performance over meaningless difference in precision every day.
For the record I think your statement is substantially true as well. Both bullets kill well, and let's be realistic about how much precision is really required.
75 ELDm is going to retain velocity and buck wind better too.At similar fps if you cant kill a deer with a 73 to 80 grn ELDM you wont with a 77TMK. The TMK isn't magic. Accuracy over cult factor every day.
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GangstaGuess I can add another data point for the 88 ELDm and 223AI. If there are typos, my bad. It’s 2 am and I am having a gin before a shower after just walking in the house from a successful moose hunt.
Here in North East BC we have a pair of 2 day moose seasons - Oct 25/26 and Nov 10/11. Only open for spike/fork, tripalm, or ten points.
Had a pretty good idea of where I wanted to go for the day, same place as last year where myself and my hunting partner shot a pair of 2 points about 30 seconds apart. I poked an 88 ELDm through the shoulders of mine and he was down at the shot.
This year I had to cut a trail around a bunch of blowdown from forest fires this summer (well, actually they are still burning here where I was) so I didn’t get into the cutblock until 3:30pm.
4pm found a pretty reasonable bull about 600 yards out, but there was a lot of willow and alder between us so I cut some distance.
Tripalm 10 point walked into a small opening at 166 yards quartering to me so I put an 88 into the point of his shoulder. He three legged hopped about 10 yards, and was broadside so I gave him a second one through the lungs because I think that the shooting is the fun part.
Two or three wobbly steps and he went down.
1st one absolutely smashed the front knuckle to bits (that quarter folds in the middle when trying to move it around) and turned the onside lung to jelly. Second poke broke ribs on the entrance, both lungs gooey, and found part of the bullet in the muscle at the back of the offside shoulder. Some lead shrapnel was embedded in the ribs inside the cavity, but that could have been either shot.
Having recently read the entire thing, I agree.PS It’s worth reading the entire thread.
ok, im not gonna read 5000 posts to find this so please dont rip me. what powder, primer, loads you guys that are handloading use for the tmk's. I totally admit I never read this thread cause I cant do the 223 for moose thing. But, I have read enuf to try the tmk's. I just build a tikka 308 but the recoil hurts my cervical stenosis so thinking I might go the 223 route this year or next. I would prefer to buy something factory but can reload a hundred or so.
It's in this thread. They shoot well.For those who don't roll their own, has anyone compared Stand 1 Armory 223 77gr TMKs vs Black Hills 5.56 77gr TMKs?
Thanks!It's in this thread. They shoot well.
Randy