I'll see if I can prove him wrong in a week by sending a 133 berger through the almighty impenetrable elk shoulder. Jokes aside I'm trying to get over my aversion to shoulders. I used to aim for them and I let other people get in my head with their nonsense. I'm actively taking my mind back to "shoot em in the center of vitals regardless of angle." No more "sneaking it in behind the shoulder games."
Any trigger can malfunction. I just searched a RS favorite and found issues with it's trigger. If it's mechanical it can fail.
Remington went through two iterations of OEM trigger that were unsafe enough that they were the subject of class action lawsuits. The first resulted in a recall of over 7,500,000 units. The second of those being the X-Mark Pro... though supposedly that was just slip shod assembly and lack of QA/QC rather than a design flaw. That's well beyond "any mechanical item can fail" I'd say.
I've been through two of remington's armorer's courses and adjusted my 700's trigger. It's held fine for over twenty years. I'd say the lawsuit was bs.
There were enough problems to warrant the recall of 7.5 million R700s, but yours hasn’t had a problem yet. Must all be bullshit. Can’t argue with that logic. Makes me really want to go buy one.
I've seen you tout tikkas. There are reports of the same trigger failures on tikkas as the rem 700's. Heck I've had to work on Glocks and other highly praised firearms for trigger failures. The fact is something can be misadjusted, improperly manufactured, or simply worn out. I see much of the lawsuit based on emotion because of the kid that got shot. Following the basic firearms safety rules of never point your firearms at anything you do not want to destroy this shouldn't of happened. But hey it's easier to blame the firearm.
More good logic. Keep it coming.
Yeah, this is a conspiracy of a bunch of Scandinavians and other Tikka fanboys on RS who are out to get US companies. I don't think anyone said (or has ever said) that any trigger system, or any mechanical device, is free from a risk of failure.
Correct. They were one of the biggest. Then their triggers were discovered to have a failure in design, and their QC dropped off the face of the planet. Now they’re where they are by their own failures.
I disagree. The failure was in the adjustments. Whether it wasn't adjusted properly from the factory or maladjusted by the owner. But I agree they had a QC problem especially at the end. I haven't taken the new Timney apart but I suspect the reason Remington decided to use it is because it's not adjustable.
I'm watching just like everyone else for the TMK posts. You guys keep quoting me so the clogging up of the thread is on you lol.
My apologies for engaging on this one. This thread is about people posting actual data on using the 223 on big game, but for some reason it also seems to be like flypaper for other random dogma.
Like the third photo where you can see your jeans through the exit hole.
Mag length (2.3") works just fine with the 77 TMK in a T3.
