.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

I'm more than halfway through reading this entire thread, and have used the search function to answer all the "what if's" regarding projectile options, barrel length, velocity limits, etc. I was completely dumbfounded after just the first few pages. This thread is dangerous! Because of it, I have a Howa barreled action en route (Tikka one day), a SWFA 6x en route, and just received a bunch of Federal's LE TRU 77gr TMK ammo (there's more on GB).

Worse than that, I don't know what to do with all my .308 hunting ammo loaded with monos. The wound channel on the buck I killed last season with a 167gr Peregrine mono (loaded by Discreet Ballistics) pales in comparison to what's in this thread.

But, I'm really looking forward to more range time, no recoil (I shoot suppressed), and one gun to rule them all. So to all you wonderful people, with irrefutable data, thank you for contributing to my empty wallet!
 
Veloci_Wrench said:
I'm more than halfway through reading this entire thread, and have used the search function to answer all the "what if's" regarding projectile options, barrel length, velocity limits, etc. I was completely dumbfounded after just the first few pages. This thread is dangerous! Because of it, I have a Howa barreled action en route (Tikka one day), a SWFA 6x en route, and just received a bunch of Federal's LE TRU 77gr TMK ammo (there's more on GB).

Worse than that, I don't know what to do with all my .308 hunting ammo loaded with monos. The wound channel on the buck I killed last season with a 167gr Peregrine mono (loaded by Discreet Ballistics) pales in comparison to what's in this thread.

But, I'm really looking forward to more range time, no recoil (I shoot suppressed), and one gun to rule them all. So to all you wonderful people, with irrefutable data, thank you for contributing to my empty wallet!
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No kidding! Because if this thread I also got a Howa mini action and just got shipping notification on a stock and bottom metal from Oregon Gunsmithing! Can’t wait to cut it down to 16” and put a accupoint on it!
 
Oakridge said:
No kidding! Because if this thread I also got a Howa mini action and just got shipping notification on a stock and bottom metal from Oregon Gunsmithing! Can’t wait to cut it down to 16” and put a accupoint on it!
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That will be a nice rig. I'd like to hear feedback on the Oregunsmithing stuff. I'm definitely going to change out the bottom metal at some point, but I'm also curious how nice their stocks are. I grabbed one of the cheap OEM HTI stocks and am considering reshaping it like others have.
 
Veloci_Wrench said:
That will be a nice rig. I'd like to hear feedback on the Oregunsmithing stuff. I'm definitely going to change out the bottom metal at some point, but I'm also curious how nice their stocks are. I grabbed one of the cheap OEM HTI stocks and am considering reshaping it like others have.
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I will be sure to post up my thoughts and a picture. Now to find some TMK’s!
 
Yeah, whoever started this thing is responsible for my poverty also, only stepped it up a notch to 22creed as I like to shoot monos...
 
kkp005 said:
Honest question …. But after reading this thread what made you stay with monos?
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My kids eating the meat, and meat loss mostly, but I've also been impressed by the performance of barnes ttsx on 7 elk, and nearly as many deer, and then Form got me going towards the LRX, which he said is better. Now if I could only find some in stock in .224!

Knock on wood, I haven't lost an animal with a ttsx, and none have gone anywhere (nearly all just lung shots).
I've found the amazing penetration of the monos to be added insurance as well. I won't argue that the TMK isn't more lethal though. Looks to be amazingly deadly.

Lastly, a comparably small wound with a mono at 2300fps+ is still vastly more devastating and forgiving (ease of shot placement and penetration) than an arrow I figure, and i have shot stuff with bows.

*all ttsx were 150grain .308 Win
 
MAINESHOT said:
@Veloci_Wrench @Oakridge @qwerksc

My first date with a 223 was today @ 14:30
First sip of the Kool-Aid was sweet….
Turns out, killing something on both ends of the gun may be unnecessary

Howa Mini .223
Burris 2-10X40 Signature
Jefferson Outdoor bottom metal

Need to drain 100 rounds so I can begin reloading
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Got RS special of sorts coming.
Tikka t3x superlite. My pops has all the load info, 200+ mixed rounds, including some 77gr tmk. I’ll have the rifle in my possession next week.
 
Just curious - by the same reasoning, would a .308/195gr TMK be recommended for African dangerous game?
 
@Formidilosus

Question, not conflict… I am genuinely interested in learning more about terminal ballistics in game.
I noted at one point you mentioned a desire for a 90+ grain TMK.

What would be the anticipated advantage in a .223?

Undoubtedly there would be a higher B.C. while trading a lower MV, this would likely result in not that much added range in the .223 over a 77 TMK due to resulting terminal velocity being below acceptable levels at longer ranges…

I‘m guessing higher kinetic energy on larger game at all distances that have acceptable terminal velocity, and / or deeper penetration before bullet upset… Thoughts?
 
MAINESHOT said:
@Formidilosus

Question, not conflict… I am genuinely interested in learning more about terminal ballistics in game.
I noted at one point you mentioned a desire for a 90+ grain TMK.

What would be the anticipated advantage in a .223?

Undoubtedly there would be a higher B.C. while trading a lower MV, this would likely result in not that much added range in the .223 over a 77 TMK due to resulting terminal velocity being below acceptable levels at longer ranges…

I‘m guessing higher kinetic energy on larger game at all distances that have acceptable terminal velocity, and / or deeper penetration before bullet upset… Thoughts?
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My understanding was it wasn't for a .223, but more like 22 creed.

The recommendation seems to generally put 77TMK as the max for .223, but heavier bullets for larger cartridges have been discussed.
 
Thanks, makes sense with a more potent cartridge.
So would there only be a longer range advantage, or other benefits such as more energy on target & / or deeper penetration?
 
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