.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Trackselk]

Yeah, whoever started this thing is responsible for my poverty also, only stepped it up a notch to 22creed as I like to shoot monos...

 

[kkp005]

Yeah, whoever started this thing is responsible for my poverty also, only stepped it up a notch to 22creed as I like to shoot monos...

Honest question …. But after reading this thread what made you stay with monos?

 

[Trackselk]

Honest question …. But after reading this thread what made you stay with monos?

My kids eating the meat, and meat loss mostly, but I've also been impressed by the performance of barnes ttsx on 7 elk, and nearly as many deer, and then Form got me going towards the LRX, which he said is better. Now if I could only find some in stock in .224!

Knock on wood, I haven't lost an animal with a ttsx, and none have gone anywhere (nearly all just lung shots).
I've found the amazing penetration of the monos to be added insurance as well. I won't argue that the TMK isn't more lethal though. Looks to be amazingly deadly.

Lastly, a comparably small wound with a mono at 2300fps+ is still vastly more devastating and forgiving (ease of shot placement and penetration) than an arrow I figure, and i have shot stuff with bows.

*all ttsx were .308 Win

 

[qwerksc]

Read the whole thread, some section’s multiple times, entered the program, .223 on the way..

 

[MEdude]

@Veloci_Wrench @Oakridge @qwerksc

My first date with a 223 was today @ 14:30
First sip of the Kool-Aid was sweet….
Turns out, killing something on both ends of the gun may be unnecessary

Howa Mini .223
Burris 2-10X40 Signature
Jefferson Outdoor bottom metal

Need to drain 100 rounds so I can begin reloading

 

[qwerksc]

@Veloci_Wrench @Oakridge @qwerksc

My first date with a 223 was today @ 14:30
First sip of the Kool-Aid was sweet….
Turns out, killing something on both ends of the gun may be unnecessary

Howa Mini .223
Burris 2-10X40 Signature
Jefferson Outdoor bottom metal

Need to drain 100 rounds so I can begin reloading

Got RS special of sorts coming.
Tikka t3x superlite. My pops has all the load info, 200+ mixed rounds, including some 77gr tmk. I’ll have the rifle in my possession next week.

 

[Smenning]

I ordered one on the 15th with a vertical pistol grip and a trigger spring. It showed up in exactly one week. 6x SS MQ should show up Tuesday and the TO84’s somewhere around the middle of March.
They are still in stock.

Tikka T3x Lite .223 Rem Rifle JRTXE312

Tikka T3x Lite .223 Rem Rifle JRTXE312 | Only at EuroOptic.com!

www.eurooptic.com

 

[DangerRanger]

223 REM 77GR Federal Tactical TRU Sierra MatchKing Tipped (T223TTMK3)

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Member price $115/100

How does this blue tip differ from the green tip?

 

[robtattoo]

It doesn't, it's just Federal's branding.
Same bullet.

 

[taba]

Just curious - by the same reasoning, would a .308/195gr TMK be recommended for African dangerous game?

 

[MEdude]

@Formidilosus

Question, not conflict… I am genuinely interested in learning more about terminal ballistics in game.
I noted at one point you mentioned a desire for a 90+ grain TMK.

What would be the anticipated advantage in a .223?

Undoubtedly there would be a higher B.C. while trading a lower MV, this would likely result in not that much added range in the .223 over a 77 TMK due to resulting terminal velocity being below acceptable levels at longer ranges…

I‘m guessing higher kinetic energy on larger game at all distances that have acceptable terminal velocity, and / or deeper penetration before bullet upset… Thoughts?

 

[Billy Goat]

@Formidilosus

Question, not conflict… I am genuinely interested in learning more about terminal ballistics in game.
I noted at one point you mentioned a desire for a 90+ grain TMK.

What would be the anticipated advantage in a .223?

Undoubtedly there would be a higher B.C. while trading a lower MV, this would likely result in not that much added range in the .223 over a 77 TMK due to resulting terminal velocity being below acceptable levels at longer ranges…

I‘m guessing higher kinetic energy on larger game at all distances that have acceptable terminal velocity, and / or deeper penetration before bullet upset… Thoughts?

My understanding was it wasn't for a .223, but more like 22 creed.

The recommendation seems to generally put 77TMK as the max for .223, but heavier bullets for larger cartridges have been discussed.

 

[MEdude]

Thanks, makes sense with a more potent cartridge.
So would there only be a longer range advantage, or other benefits such as more energy on target & / or deeper penetration?

 

[Big_wals]

Tikka T3X Lite Bolt Action Rifle 270 Winchester 22.4 Barrel Left Hand

The Tikka T3x is the go to rifle for when compromise is not an option. The Tikka T3x lite combines high performance with lightweight ease. The Lite...

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Stainless .223 t3 in stock at Midway

 

[robtattoo]

Tikka T3X Lite Bolt Action Rifle 270 Winchester 22.4 Barrel Left Hand

The Tikka T3x is the go to rifle for when compromise is not an option. The Tikka T3x lite combines high performance with lightweight ease. The Lite...

www.midwayusa.com

Stainless .223 t3 in stock at Midway

They've also got a blued 1:8 .22-250 left over too.

Curse my lack of funds!

 

[ARK_Ginger]

How does this blue tip differ from the green tip?

One must be for bad guys and the other for targets. *sarcasm*

 

[DangerRanger]

One must be for bad guys and the other for targets. *sarcasm*

That is what I thought jokingly in my head but if someone had cut one open and seen an actual difference I’d like to know before I injure an animal and have to walk all night

 

[roosiebull]

4k Ultra HD or it didn't happen.

It must be available in virtual reality as well… forgot to mention that

 

[roosiebull]

A single [.223] round is capable of severing the upper body from the lower body, or decapitation.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624470286598012928

Well, it looks like the DOJ read the WHOLE thread, so kudos to them

 

[roosiebull]

No didnt read all 159 pages . sorry. but kind of makes my point.

You should, it’s the most informative material I’ve read on the internet period. If you can’t let go of traditional stigmas, it probably won’t matter, but if you are capable of reading with an open mind, your opinions will shift at least some.

The vast information (experience based) in this thread can be applied to any cartridge as well, it’s about the .223 but goes much deeper than that alone.

I opened this thread because I’m a sucker for clickbait thread titles, but it got real legs pretty quick.