DJL2
Lil-Rokslider
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I wouldn't take an all copper bullet to 2000 fps, least of all a .223 caliber pill. There's just not enough margin for error there based on my shooting skill.
Doh! Right... it was late, wasn't thinking about the expansion threshold velocity issue. (Checks load..) Oh heck, that should be more than fine then for my purposes, for the 62gr Remington HogHammer it stays above 2k out to 350yds.Put your velocity into a ballistics app and find out where the bullet drops below 2k FPS and that’s your max range, given you can shoot that far.
What would those of you with experience using a .223 Rem of the 55gr or 62gr Barnes TSX variety say should be the distance to limit a shot to, on... let's say a nicer sized SoCal Mule Deer in the weight range of... maybe.. 160-200 Lbs? Though they are rare for me, more like 130-140Lbs usually.
I've been tempted to try the .223 Rem in the thicker environments I hunt it where the distances are short. Pretty sure it would do fine there due to short distances. But I'm curious what the practical distances are considered for that round for when I'm in a more Open Country Desert Hills type of setting where they tend to present themselves significantly farther out like 200yd-600yd?
Anyone know how those Sierra gamechanger bullets stack up? Asking because I grabbed two boxes a few months back and have yet to whack anything with it. Pretty sure I got a 64 gr 224 and a 125 gr 308 for reloading in two gas guns.The TMK penetrates substantially better, particularly when driven hard, and expansion is still spectacular
Negative. Changed a while back. "Centerfire rifle using expanding bullets" is the regulation.Just a heads up, I'm pretty darn sure 6mm is the minimum legal caliber for big game in CA.
Negative. Changed a while back. "Centerfire rifle using expanding bullets" is the regulation.
That's a big negative. It just has to be a Centerfire cartridge. I'm newer to hunting so recently (2014) had to look thru all of this cause I damn sure didn't want any legal liabilities.Just a heads up, I'm pretty darn sure 6mm is the minimum legal caliber for big game in CA.
For those of you that have used the 77gr TMK on game and have found that it matches or even surpasses the performance of far larger calibers - why do you think that is? I'd assume that rapid, consistent fragmentation plays a pretty big role.
Thanks. That makes sense. I have taken a couple deer and hogs with 55gr Barnes, I believe they were TTSX. They were DRT kind of kills, and lungs were pretty well liquefied. though I didn’t examine wound channels too much and didn’t recover projectiles. Just gutted and brought them to the processor.Heavy for caliber monos are a good example of what Form was referring to as tough construction, narrow wounding and delayed killing.
Monos are best utilized when light for caliber. Really need to pay attention to impact velocity in choosing max range for monos.
Observe the gaping hole in the cat...
Well mainly due to ease of placement.
However, when you get to heavy for caliber bullets that fragment, there’s simply more bullet to fragment. A 77gr bullet in 30cal of like construction will penetrate about 6-8 inches at same velocity. A 77gr .224 bullet like the TMK penetrates 16-20 inches. People go the wrong way with “marginal” rounds- they think because it’s small that they need a super tough, deep penetrating bullet. All that does is create narrow wounds that take more time for the animal to succumb. A heavy, rapidly fragmenting bullet creates a much wider wound, while still having enough bullet to penetrate.