.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

What happens with the core lokt in comparison?
Didn’t open as much, less hydraulic shock, smaller temp cavity & permanent cavity. Wasn’t a super-drastic difference but the smaller cartridge outperformed it. Which I guess is the drastic difference lol. The fact that the 243 would’ve resulted in more damage and a faster kill than the 300 magnum in that instance.

Like the OP said at the beginning, bullets matter more than headstamps.
 
Here’s the video. Apologies, I was going from memory. He had done the 243 in an earlier video and referred back to it along with several others.

 
Some velocity data points for a 16” suppressed barrel with stand one armory ammo 77tmk loaded to mag length and unknown munitions 75eldm loaded to bolt length. These are both based on ten shot strings. Stand one is definitely loaded hotter based on this small sample size.

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Unknown Munitions
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Thanks for posting this. I was going to ask what guys are getting for speed with the 77 tmk.

I know I could go back and look through all 130+ pages but does anyone else want to share what they are getting speed wise and what type of gun and barrel length?


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Some velocity data points for a 16” suppressed barrel with stand one armory ammo 77tmk loaded to mag length and unknown munitions 75eldm loaded to bolt length. These are both based on ten shot strings. Stand one is definitely loaded hotter based on this small sample size.

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Unknown Munitions
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That is not bad at all, what are the rifle details? I currently have a 20” tikka and wouldn’t mind chopping it a couple or few more inches. Currently get about 2800 suppressed with the tmk’s
 
That is not bad at all, what are the rifle details? I currently have a 20” tikka and wouldn’t mind chopping it a couple or few more inches. Currently get about 2800 suppressed with the tmk’s
It’s a stainless tikka that I had cut down to 16” and the suppressor is a Gen 2 Ultra 9. I did have Shaen rifles throat it a little longer in order to seat out the 77s as far as possible. Once I burn through the 75s I’ll reload them up with the 77s and some TAC to see how much more velocity I can get9A015444-CF19-470B-B524-CB75EBA51C66.jpeg
 
It’s a stainless tikka that I had cut down to 16” and the suppressor is a Gen 2 Ultra 9. I did have Shaen rifles throat it a little longer in order to seat out the 77s as far as possible. Once I burn through the 75s I’ll reload them up with the 77s and some TAC to see how much more velocity I can getView attachment 492726
Good deal, I was debating cutting mine down to 18 but if I do decide to cut it may go shorter yet. I just like the short hand(ier) feel especially with the suppressor.
 
Fantastic performance and thanks for sharing!

Wouldn’t steer you wrong on this!

So much GREAT information and first hand experience graciously shared by others that facilitated the start of this thread thread.

The thread has continued thanks to others with an open mind willing to give the combination a chance.

It’s contrary to what I thought I knew and what you read across the forums on a daily basis, however…the results speak for themselves. The performance is remarkable and often needs to be experienced first hand to be believed.

I do not believe there is a better combination for big game inside of 450 yds. Period.
I’m nowhere near the marksman to hunt anyone close to 450yds +, but what would be the cartridge/bullet combo of choice for you and form?
 
I’m nowhere near the marksman to hunt anyone close to 450yds +, but what would be the cartridge/bullet combo of choice for you and form?

Past 450’ish yards- given someone that is truly trained and practiced- a 6cm or 6.5cm is the easiest way. Between them, I’d get a 6cm in a Tikka, if a factory rifle then a Tikka in 6.5cm.
 
Past 450’ish yards- given someone that is truly trained and practiced- a 6cm or 6.5cm is the easiest way. Between them, I’d get a 6cm in a Tikka, if a factory rifle then a Tikka in 6.5cm.
Understood. thank you. At what distance or game would you consider stepping up to a .30, or mid/large bore?
 
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