.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[fwafwow]

Do they look to be cannelured?

I'd love to have an additional source of factory 77 gr TMK to complement my Black Hills stuff but I'd like to see something with cannelures and ideally the same POI; to that end, I wouldn't mind seeing some chronograph and zeroing information, if anyone gets the chance to test them on the range. The quoted 2700 FPS @14.5" barrel mentioned earlier is actually a touch fast for my taste as I'm getting the same velocity numbers from the Black Hills ammo out of a 16" barrel, but then again I'm the sort of person who's perhaps irrationally averse to dialing.

 

[260madman]

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I had gun parts delivered where I worked and the place was a no weapons of any kind facility, not even in your car. Become ungovernable.

 

[fwafwow]

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@Billy Goat, you could use some manscaping.

In hindsight, the office would have been better. I was sweating waiting for the UPS truck. I tracked that dude and managed to meet him “by happenstance” at the mailbox.

I can hear the inevitable “fwafwow is afraid of Mrs fwafwow.” Yes, I am. I’ve broken so many edicts that I’m on something weaker than thin ice.

Back to your normal programming

 

[fwafwow]

I had gun parts delivered where I worked and the place was a no weapons of any kind facility, not even your car. Become ungovernable.

The juice isn’t worth the squeeze - for me. The downside of a lost job vs the wrath at home is close though.

 

[Billy Goat]

@Billy Goat, you could use some manscaping.

In hindsight, the office would have been better. I was sweating waiting for the UPS truck. I tracked that dude and managed to meet him “by happenstance” at the mailbox.

I can hear the inevitable “fwafwow is afraid of Mrs fwafwow.” Yes, I am. I’ve broken so many edicts that I’m on something weaker than thin ice.

Back to your normal programming

Time for you to declare you are King of your Castle.




Actually, I'd recommend not saying that. Especially around 10:45pm after too much Bourbon.

 

[T.C]

I have a tikka compact 20in barrel I shot the stand one yesterday after adding sportsmatch and z5i. This has been the norm 3 shots from this gun but less that 30 rounds down barrel. Have some unknownmunitions 77 coming also to try.

 

[Dioni A]

The juice isn’t worth the squeeze - for me. The downside of a lost job vs the wrath at home is close though.

You can have stuff sent to any of the ups stores, Fed ex pickup locations or any small pack and ship offices. I do that any time nobody's going to be home and it's a signature required package.

 

[fwafwow]

You can have stuff sent to any of the ups stores, Fed ex pickup locations or any small pack and ship offices. I do that any time nobody's going to be home and it's a signature required package.

I should probably just cut back on buying $hit. The Lenz socks, the components for the JRB climbing system, ammo, Vivo shoes and boots. Etc. I need an intervention.

 

[fwafwow]

Time for you to declare you are King of your Castle.




Actually, I'd recommend not saying that. Especially around 10:45pm after too much Bourbon.

Have you not seen Game of Thrones?

 

[Formidilosus]

2 evenings ago I had no exit with the 6 arc and 108 eldm. 200ish yards, no heavy bone impact, just behind the shoulder. Absolutely grenaded the insides tho. 150#ish Doe. It's also a sample of 1. Seemed to be one that was just tough, she reared back and hit the dirt, thought it was a drt, but got up and took off. Went about 100 yards, then went down in the field.

Guess I'll put the next one thru the shoulder.

Good bit of experience with .260 and 6.5C with Amax snd ELD-M’S (140&147), seems to be a consistent exit performance on WT.

I don’t expect exits with anything. I’ve caught more Barnes TSX bullets in deer than all others combined- that doesn’t mean TEX’s don’t exit. It just means that if you shoot enough, some won’t exit. The most consistent exiters have been Nosler Partitions for what it’s worth.

 

[woods89]

I would shoot bone with 77TMK’s and be done. However, baring that- in 223 for exits generally, the 75gr Hornady HPBT will usually exit, but doesn’t kill as quickly. 88gr ELD-M’s will usually do it as well from 223’s on up. 6mm’s like the ARC, 243/6CM with the aforementioned 95gr NBT, 108gr ELD-M, etc will do it. Also for exits, the Hornady 105gr HPBT does really well.

Great info. Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks!

 

[Billy Goat]

Have you not seen Game of Thrones?

Negative. I don't really watch too much TV.

 

[fwafwow]

Negative. I don't really watch too much TV.

Be careful declaring yourself king of your castle. It doesn't always end well.

 

[Castle Rock]

If you have to declare it you ain’t

 

[Lawnboi]

@fwafwow
It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than fight with all of rokslide for the few TMK that Sierra didn’t mess up

 

[fwafwow]

@fwafwow
It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than fight with all of rokslide for the few TMK that Sierra didn’t mess up

There is a limit to how many times one can ask for forgiveness. At this point it's just way easier to hide my problem(s).

 

[SBR Sarge]

I can hear the inevitable “fwafwow is afraid of Mrs fwafwow.” Yes, I am. I’ve broken so many edicts that I’m on something weaker than thin ice.

Back to your normal programming

In the same boat, wishing I could hit the ‘like’ button 100 times….

 

[LimeSpoon]

I don’t expect exits with anything. I’ve caught more Barnes TSX bullets in deer than all others combined- that doesn’t mean TEX’s don’t exit. It just means that if you shoot enough, some won’t exit. The most consistent exiters have been Nosler Partitions for what it’s worth.

This may be moving a bit outside the scope (no pun intended) of the original intent of this thread, but as someone who finds terminal ballistics an interesting subject, I've had this question on my mind:

How wide would you guess the wound channels in lungs produced by .223 TSXs at higher impact velocities (say 2700+ FPS) are, as an estimate in inches? I imagine it may change in diameter as the bullet continues to penetrate, expand, and slow down, so I suppose I'm just looking for an average.

Lately I have been examining the degree of similarity/overlap between the most destructive service caliber handgun rounds, which appear to create a hole about 1" across, and the less destructive rifle rounds. .223 TSX seems to be a good example of the latter, barring silly stuff like GP90 and brass solids that neither expand nor fragment.

 

[Formidilosus]

How wide would you guess the wound channels in lungs produced by .223 TSXs at higher impact velocities (say 2700+ FPS) are, as an estimate in inches? I imagine it may change in diameter as the bullet continues to penetrate, expand, and slow down, so I suppose I'm just looking for an average.

Generally permanent cavity is about 1.5-2 inches wide.

Lately I have been examining the degree of similarity/overlap between the most destructive service caliber handgun rounds, which appear to create a hole about 1" across, and the less destructive rifle rounds. .223 TSX seems to be a good example of the latter

The worst rifle bullets are far more destructive of tissue than the best pistol service caliber bullets. Rifles are rifles and they do rifle things in tissue.

 

[Bkballer777]

I will just sit here and enjoy the show to come