22-250 popularity and use

[Wyoming300]

I havn't shot any factory ammo (other than rimfire) in 60 years!! But that's another subject...LOL!

I hand load too. But i mean i only shoot calibers every gun store and gas station sells ammunition for. I dont want to be in the middle of the mountains asking around for some super specialized no one else shoots it variant of a cartridge.

 

[VernAK]

Im the young crowd.

Why would i pay 3x the price for limited ammunition availability, pay a fortune for new rifles that have few options, only to acheive ballistics that are marginally better in the AVERAGE HUNTING RANGES, when 22 250 is a hundred years old and works just great? I think some people it will catch on with. The average coyote hunter making 300 yard shots likely could not tell a difference.

Gotta agree regarding the 100-year-old cartridges working great after a century and that applies to others also [270 vs. 6.5 CM] .

 

[nm.otter]

Gotta agree regarding the 100-year-old cartridges working great after a century and that applies to others also [270 vs. 6.5 CM] .

6.5 CM is in gas stations and drug stores now -- one of several reasons I decided to give it a try.

 

[Wyoming300]

6.5 CM is in gas stations and drug stores now -- one of several reasons I decided to give it a try.

With fewer options and a higher price. I bought some lead tip 22 250 for $18 a box at a gas station last night

 

[wind gypsy]

I think it will be a long time before anyone discontinued a big seller for 22 creedmore which the average yote hunter wont tell a difference with at a 300 yard shot. 22 creedmore has some great ballistics at ranges few people shoot.

I dont think 308 is being killed by 6.5 creedmore.

Maybe for target shooters. Deffinitely not for hunters. People shooting 308 for hunting wyoming are a minority. There are much better calibers for the action size, such as 270 win. Most of us shoot magnums.

Here's examples to some more recent rifle releases-

From a WY company - 22 creed, not 22-250

Model 307™ Alpine™ ST – Weatherby, Inc.

weatherby.com

22 ARC, no 22-250

Ruger®

ruger.com

5 options in 22 creed, 1 in 22-250

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6.5 creed wont kill 308 but it is already eclipsing it in ammo and rifle sales. It certainly put the 260 rem to rest.

Top 15 Most Popular Rifle Cartridges (2026 Edition) – Backfire

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[Wyoming300]

Here's examples to some more recent rifle releases-

From a WY company - 22 creed, not 22-250

Model 307™ Alpine™ ST – Weatherby, Inc.

weatherby.com

22 ARC, no 22-250

Ruger®

ruger.com

5 options in 22 creed, 1 in 22-250

BOLT-ACTION RIFLES Archives

Bolt Action Rifles landing page

christensenarms.com

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6.5 creed wont kill 308 but it is already eclipsing it in ammo and rifle sales. It certainly put the 260 rem to rest.

Top 15 Most Popular Rifle Cartridges (2026 Edition) – Backfire

backfire.tv

I appreciate your response.

Im not sure what your getting at with the photo. Its blurry on my phone.

Im not sure why you linked ruger website and said no 22 250. Their current production ruger american rifles do offer a 22 250 chambering. Their predator line of american rifles typically features 22 250 in the adds.

As for the weatherby 307. They recently purchased a factory in wyoming. Its great they have receivers marked wyoming but thats not quite the same as a wyoming born company. I understand why the 307 doesnt have a 22 250 offering. They are marketing that as an ultra light mountain hunting rifle. Most people arent buying varmit loads for that. If you read deeper into it, none of those calibers have a 30 06 bolt face. Makes sense to not neck down from a 30 06 bolt face to 22 caliber when your trying to build a light weight elk rifle. Im betting the 22 credmore was an easy opportunity in this case because it uses the same bolt face as another cartridge listed there.

 

[wind gypsy]

I appreciate your response.

Im not sure what your getting at with the photo. Its blurry on my phone.

Im not sure why you linked ruger website and said no 22 250. Their current production ruger american rifles do offer a 22 250 chambering. Their predator line of american rifles typically features 22 250 in the adds.

As for the weatherby 307. They recently purchased a factory in wyoming. It’s great they have receivers marked wyoming but thats not quite the same as a wyoming born company. I understand why the 307 doesnt have a 22 250 offering. They are marketing that as an ultra light mountain hunting rifle. Most people arent buying varmit loads for that. If you read deeper into it, none of those calibers have a 30 06 bolt face. Makes sense to not neck down from a 30 06 bolt face to 22 caliber when your trying to build a light weight elk rifle. Im betting the 22 credmore was an easy opportunity in this case because it uses the same bolt face as another cartridge listed there.

30-06, 308, creedmoors, 22-250, etc all use the same bolt face dimension. You might be mistaking long action for short action? Regardless, 22-250 is a short action with same bolt face as 308/260/243, creedmoors, GT, BR, etc.

I’m just showing some examples of how 22 creedmoor and 22 arc will take some of the market that used to be primarily cornered by the 22-250. Not disparaging 22-250 at all.

 

[Wyoming300]

30-06, 308, creedmoors, 22-250, etc all use the same bolt face dimension. You might be mistaking long action for short action? Regardless, 22-250 is a short action with same bolt face as 308/260/243, creedmoors, GT, BR, etc.

I’m just showing some examples of how 22 creedmoor and 22 arc will take some of the market that used to be primarily cornered by the 22-250. Not disparaging 22-250 at all.

You lost me again. Why is your supporting evidence a list of chamberings that the weatherby 307 is not offered in?

 

[Deere_Man]

You lost me again. Why is your supporting evidence a list of chamberings that the weatherby 307 is not offered in?

Ruger stopped making the M77, their flagship model, in all but one variant in 22-250. They did offer the Gen 1 American in 22-250 but it now shows unavailable. The new Gen 2 is available in 22 Creedmoor, in two separate variants. This is insightful as far as offering a glimpse into what a publicly traded gun manufacturer is thinking for a strategy to increase profits…Because that is the job of a corporation, not to produce a good or service, but cash for shareholders.

 

[Wyoming300]

Ruger stopped making the M77, their flagship model, in all but one variant in 22-250. They did offer the Gen 1 American in 22-250 but it now shows unavailable. The new Gen 2 is available in 22 Creedmoor, in two separate variants. This is insightful as far as offering a glimpse into what a publicly traded gun manufacturer is thinking for a strategy to increase profits…Because that is the job of a corporation, not to produce a good or service, but cash for shareholders.

Your sure right about the corporations.

Im not sure the american gen 2 is not available in 22 250. The predator line shows it as an option on the website. It says currently unavailable, but most calibers and stock configurations say that. I dont think it means discontinued. They likely are facing manufacturing challenges that have them behind. Or maybe they are like harley and now all of the american made parts suddenly have very high import tariffs.

 

[Wyoming300]

Ruger stopped making the M77, their flagship model, in all but one variant in 22-250. They did offer the Gen 1 American in 22-250 but it now shows unavailable. The new Gen 2 is available in 22 Creedmoor, in two separate variants. This is insightful as far as offering a glimpse into what a publicly traded gun manufacturer is thinking for a strategy to increase profits…Because that is the job of a corporation, not to produce a good or service, but cash for shareholders.

I just looked at the ruger m77.

Its wild how they have broken the m77 up into models named by bore diameter and then have stupid chamberings. The hawkeye isnt much better. Looks like most of both say unavailable or limited availability. I dont think it would be a stretch to say with how rocky the economy is, supply disruptions, labor issues, and them having moved the factory a few years ago it likely is very hard for them to get much made. Its a shame.

 

[Deere_Man]

I just looked at the ruger m77.

Its wild how they have broken the m77 up into models named by bore diameter and then have stupid chamberings. The hawkeye isnt much better. Looks like most of both say unavailable or limited availability. I dont think it would be a stretch to say with how rocky the economy is, supply disruptions, labor issues, and them having moved the factory a few years ago it likely is very hard for them to get much made. Its a shame.

The Hawkeye is the M77. Their website just says HAWKEYE, but the Hawkeye is the latest iteration of the M77.

The group of rifles listed under the 77 Series sub-heading are all the M77’s chambered in rimfire, pistol, and Hornet cartridges.

Marketing genius is not the phrase that comes to mind.

 

[nmarchr]

Have been very successful on mule deer and antelope for us. Typically try to keep distances within about 300 yards.

 

[Superx3]

My 22-250 is my daily pickup gun on the farm. I bought a 223 for cheap factory loads when I don’t feel like reloading the 22-250 but hate it. 223 never leaves the safe. 22-250 is used for everything from stray tom cats to putting down livestock. When a buddy of mine had a hunting lease it killed most of the feral pigs I shot too. I wish it was not a 1-14 twist but it shoots 55gr v-max very well. I usually throw something else in the pickup during deer season because why not, but I have and will kill a mule deer with it if I come across a shooter and it’s what I have that day.

 

[wind gypsy]

You lost me again.

Clearly

Why is your supporting evidence a list of chamberings that the weatherby 307 is not offered in?

Last post was trying to clarify your misunderstanding of what a bolt face is since you didn't seem to have a solid grasp on the term.

 

[Nine Banger]

The Tikka 1:8 barrel makes it a toss-up with 22 Creed, perhaps better because you don't have to mess with a prefit.

The trimming thing seems overblown between the 2 cases.

With 22-250 you can buy a bunch of 55s to shoot and load 77's for hunting.

Or go the other way with 22 Creed and buy 80's and load light bullets when you need them.

These barrels age like a dog so you're not stuck with anything for very long if you practice like we should.

I screw around with other cartridges because it's a hobby but if I had to pick one, I'd be fine with either 22-250 or 22 Creed as a lone rifle.

When I shot my 22-250 barrel out I didn't give the brass or dies away; I'll probably be back.

 

[xsn10s]

I had one until I burned the barrel out. I used mine for sage rats, rock chucks, and coyotes. It's a great round and I'll build another one. I'll have a fast twist barrel made for it when I get around to it. I've never shot deer with one but I wouldn't be against it. Even though I want to shoot heavier bullets with it the 55gr going 3500-3700 fps make running shots on coyotes easier.

 

[kswaterfowl]

My 22-250 is my go to coyote rifle. The sierra blitzkings going 3900 fps is an easy button out to 300 yards. Hold on fur and watch them drop.

 

[McCrapper]

We shoot a Bergara B-14 which has a 1-9'' twist. My son has shot 5-6 whitetail bucks, from 80-175 yards all have dropped where they stood. We have been using the 50gr TSX for all of those. Whitetails are bang, flops... Pigs are a little more resilient but die in short order either way.

 

[Wyoming300]

The Hawkeye is the M77. Their website just says HAWKEYE, but the Hawkeye is the latest iteration of the M77.

The group of rifles listed under the 77 Series sub-heading are all the M77’s chambered in rimfire, pistol, and Hornet cartridges.

Marketing genius is not the phrase that comes to mind.

Your right there. Im no mba, but i think manufacturing would be much more streamlined and profits higher, if they had a standard m77 and a list of calibers, all the other features and options were custom order and available as accessories, instead of making 15 different models from the same 3 action sizes.