I've bought 4 Vortex products. All scopes. All failed. Replacements failed. Sold 2nd set of replacements when they came in.
Crossfire, Diamondback, Viper, Razor.
Compared to all other scopes I've used in 51 years, 3 failed. Yeah junk to me.
How the stock fits me and quality of recoil pad means as much to my "felt" recoil as any #s do.
Can't compare apples to oranges and expect the #s to work.
Just shoot em in the head or neck at 90 and stay off the quartering shoulder. Tipped soft bullet and big angle on the shoulder invites trouble. Tip likes to do the boot scoot boogie.
I did it at steep angle on a sternum 20 years ago with 270 sst 130 gr. Deer hopped up and ran like a scalded dog...
I adjust my crosshairs so they are level when I first throw the rifle up. Most of my shots are immediate snapshots, or within a few seconds. Doesn't make sense to me to level a scope to an unnatural position for me.
Based on seeing severely distorted old school Core-lokts and Power Points back in the 70s and 80s, under 200 yards the tip doesn't matter nearly as much as you would think. I saw this from 308, 30-06 and 270.
The older hunters didn't pay the abused tips any attention and still made good shots...
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I've shot well over 100 deer with NBT and never seen that happen. Like Hornady SST, I have seen exits just a hair bigger than caliber size where just the hard bullet base exited. Insides were soup where front of bullet fragmented though.
Yes sir the stupidity is real. You don't know til you know. I shot at a decent buck yesterday evening running a big doe. 150 yard snap shot freehand. He got back into the thicket before I could send another round.
From 52 deer seasons experience, I would have bet and gave someone really good...