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  1. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Sorry but to me, objective reality is almost every legitimate brown bear guide in Alaska.
  2. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    Fair question. Probably they are inferring from experience that while heavy for caliber 22’s are good, they likely are not better than the standard fare 270’s etc..that they have learned the hard way are not up to the task.
  3. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    A deer and a brown bear are not the same. When someone says a 223 is great for deer and elk, but maybe not a brown bear, and then you post a picture of a deer, it seems like you haven’t done the thing.
  4. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    What objective large sample size evidence is there that those are good brown bear rounds? I know a person can say anything if it’s on the internet and they don’t t have to follow though. But if you booked a $30k hunt for coastal brown bear and have a good chance of a 10 footer, would you...
  5. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I’ll take the word of someone who actually made his living hunting big bears over a random person on the internet who may have never even been in the vicinity of a brown bear.
  6. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    No, before the policy they witnessed people using smaller caliber rifles and did not like the results. Hence the policy.
  7. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    I’m a huge fan of the 77tmk for deer and elk. That said, when it comes to brown bears, reducing the experience of seasoned Alaskan guides to “dogma” is a mistake. There’s a reason many of them have minimum calibers. A good friend of mine has owned an outfitting business there since the late...
  8. J

    What caused the Rokslide shift to smallest caliber and cartridges?

    That conclusion is already incorrect, and bullet technology will only continue to improve.
  9. J

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    Yes
  10. J

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    You said it right in your post, range. Inside its range it is perfectly fine. But it’s range is significantly less than many other rounds, so why limit yourself if there’s $40k on the line.
  11. J

    Does the 223/6mm for everything change when hunt cost $$$

    Agree 100%. Talk on the internet is cheap. Real world dudes that make an average salary and take 10+ years to save up for the hunt of a lifetime, and then actually take a .223 on said hunt are extremely rare. And yes I’ve read the whole other thread. And I'm a fan of the 223, I’ve killed...
  12. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Always looking at options that will work and be a bit more reasonably priced and easily available . If you reload that’s one thing, but a box of 50 black hills 77tmk ammo is $80 plus shipping at luckygunner. I’ve never seen a box in a LGS near me.
  13. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    His own mind doesn’t change reality though. If he believes the earth is flat, who am I to tell him his own mind? To me it doesn’t matter what he thinks, he’s objectively wrong.
  14. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Luckily instead of listening to your random uninformed opinion, there’s a thread with hundreds of posts with pictures that proves you are incorrect. Let me see if I can find it for you. Oh right, it’s the one you’re actually in right now…
  15. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Is the point of this to try to say grizzlies are not significantly different than whitetail as far as killing them? I mean if you shot both with even a 30-06 you’d know. That’s not to say the 223 can’t do the job, it can.
  16. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    O thought you were the expert? I’ve cut up many deer and skinned a number of grizzlies. I’d estimate at least 3 times as much muscle on a griz than a whitetail minimum.
  17. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Nobody said it was. There’s just a lot more of it. Hence the amount of muscle you need to penetrate to get to vitals is more.
  18. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    There’s nothing magical of course. It’s just there’s a lot MORE muscle bone etc to get through than a whitetail or elk. Plus, if you don’t get it right the consequences are significantly higher. But there’s no question if you shoot anything in the right place with a .223 it will die.
  19. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    Same answer, tmk…
  20. J

    .223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

    I shot 130 deer doing depredation with the 69gr match king and the furthest one went about 50 yards.
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