Zinke stepping down

[Oregon]

Damn shame.
University of Oregon football player
Eagle Scout
Navy Seal who retired as a 0-5 Commander.
Hunter and Fisherman

Integrity and Loyalty is written all over his resume.
I do not claim to know if it is a Dem witch hunt or an Eagle Scout who just got stuck on stupid.
Regardless, I was a fan from the day he showed up to his first day of work in the cabinet on horseback.

 

[Gobbler36]

Damn shame.
University of Oregon football player
Eagle Scout
Navy Seal who retired as a 0-5 Commander.
Hunter and Fisherman

Integrity and Loyalty is written all over his resume.
I do not claim to know if it is a Dem witch hunt or an Eagle Scout who just got stuck on stupid.
Regardless, I was a fan from the day he showed up to his first day of work in the cabinet on horseback.

Feel the same way. Can’t imagine a guy with that background getting stuck on stupid

 

[Trial153]

James, save that crap for your regional BHA pub night. My stance has nothing to do with politics. Only what I said. I don’t care the party preference of anyone as long as their outlook is not tainted by their political motives. Here was an appointee that made his commitment of hunting and fishing access premiere. Why anyone who claims the same is their priority was against him is beyond my comprehension.




I used the lead ban as an example of politics defining policy. That guys who disposed Zinke, never complained one second here when that was passed. It takes a political moron to suggest they care about hunting rights but, unwilling to piont that out. While these same people hated Zinke because he believed in responsible resource extraction. Just one example of my first post. Pointing out reality is just pointing it out.


You can label anything the way you want. It doesn’t make it that way.

Why dont you enlighten us on how the BHA, RMEF and TRCP who all supported the Zinke nomination forced him to make sweetheart Montana land deal for his wifes company? Did BHA force him to violate the Hatch act? Wait maybe BHA strong armed the justice department into a potential criminal investigation after the Interior department's Inspector general released their investigation?
Yea we did all that from a pint night.

Zinke is out because he is an entitled politician that thinks he is above the law. He is running away to save his ass. But your ok with all that because he is a Republican, shame on you.

 

[Trial153]

Republicans good, Democrats bad. Democrats good, Republicans bad. The all are bad at this point. Wake the **** up America. Both sides suck and neither have our best interests in mind
When we give "our" side a pass while we demonize the other side we are nothing but hacks, and we are responsible for the perpetuation of a broken system.

 

[Billinsd]

Zinke is out because he is an entitled political hack that thinks he is above the law. He is running away to save his ass. But your ok with all that because he is a Republican, shame on you.

Looks like he's done somethings that have conflict of interest that benefited him and/or his wife? What you are saying could be true, or not. What are some compelling articles from somewhat unbiased sources? Zinke sounds like a fantastic guy on paper!! I'm not saying he is not. It's painful to me if what you are saying is true and it's not ok with me, even if he is a conservative. Randy Cunningham "used" to be my Congressman. That whole thing really hurt. Right now Duncan Hunter is under investigation and from what I've read and those that know his family, it looks real bad. I like to know the truth, however, it's extremely difficult to really know.

 

[Okhotnik]

FNG here. I’ll get to background about me after my initial post.

I’ve met Ryan a few times in Montana and here in DC and there is no one better when it comes to ethics and leadership and wanting to help America. He feels very passionately about the environment and conservation.I’m a combat vet and have been working in DC this past year and you would not believe the animosity and blind hatred for military vets and those with conservative beliefs here in DCnow. I deal with it every day at work on the metro etc. I worked here in the 90’s and was completely different like the rest of the urban east coast.I think a lot of the crazy hatred and desire to destroy decent military guys like Zinke and his family is because these people like Tester , Schumer and Obama could never have the guts and tenacity and morals and character to to serve the country like Zinke.

Disgusting what has politics have become. This is just another witch hunt to destroy anyone and their families who want to work with Trump.Look at the crazy AG who was just appointed in NY. Her first course of business is to go after Trump and his family and not violent criminals and terrorists in her state.

Damn shame.
University of Oregon football player
Eagle Scout
Navy Seal who retired as a 0-5 Commander.
Hunter and Fisherman

Integrity and Loyalty is written all over his resume.
I do not claim to know if it is a Dem witch hunt or an Eagle Scout who just got stuck on stupid.
Regardless, I was a fan from the day he showed up to his first day of work in the cabinet on horseback.

 

[realunlucky]

Witch hunt or not when you expose yourself to conflict of interest over money your not getting the benefit of the doubt. Human nature is a greedy bitch.
Politics is dirty game no one that plays comes away clean now days but everybody is doing it isn't an acceptable excuse.

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[WV Mountaineer]

Zinke seems to be leaving due to the ethics investigations, not because of any of his resource issues.

You love to rail against BHA, have you ever had an actual face to face conversation with any staff or any group interaction?

I'm not railing the BHA. What part of my posts said anything negative about the organization? I defended the whole organization in regards to the stance most members here take. By separating the organization's position on the whole thing versus many of its members who post here.

Not to many members out this way. I'd be happy to set down and have a beer and steak with any member anywhere though when possible. I'm sure we all have the same goal.

 

[Rthur]

As proven in the thread, are we not fighting amongst ourselves and wasting efforts that could be directed towards
the folks that cause problems so they can be the "solution"?

R

 

[Okhotnik]

As proven in the thread, are we not fighting amongst ourselves and wasting efforts that could be directed towards
the folks that cause problems so they can be the "solution"?

R

Shame that good people like Zinke get run out of politics. So how much money did Zinke’s wife receive??

In the meantime corrupt politicians calling for Zinkes investigations make tens of millions fleecing the tax payers and no investigations. Swamp

Businesses tied to McCaskill’s husband got federal dollars | McClatchy Washington Bureau

Billions in Military Contracts to Husband's Firms Were Approved by Sen. Feinstein's Committee, Metro Newspapers Investigation Reports | Business Wire.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

Why dont you enlighten us on how the BHA, RMEF and TRCP who all supported the Zinke nomination forced him to make sweetheart Montana land deal for his wifes company? Did BHA force him to violate the Hatch act? Wait maybe BHA strong armed the justice department into a potential criminal investigation after the Interior department's Inspector general released their investigation?
Yea we did all that from a pint night.

Zinke is out because he is an entitled politician that thinks he is above the law. He is running away to save his ass. But your ok with all that because he is a Republican, shame on you.

As I plainly stated James, in the original post, if he has broken the law, then let him stand for it. However simply pointing out something that may be illegal is not fact until proven to be so. Did he do as you suggest? It sees there is an investigation to determine that. Not your or my opinion.

I'll say it again. Point out anything I said that hasn't been true or was partisan. The same poster boys that slandered his nomination here are the same one's going around telling everyone to vote democrat on other threads. Pointing that out isn't being partisan. Its pointing out the truth. You've seen. Refer to y first post and my post preceding this one. I was not bashing the BHA.

Perhaps you should do as you suggest and see things for what is written instead of picking a side based on your preference for a certain group.

 

[realunlucky]

Shame that good people like Zinke get run out of politics. So how much money did Zinke’s wife receive??

In the meantime corrupt politicians calling for Zinkes investigations make tens of millions fleecing the tax payers and no investigations. Swamp

Businesses tied to McCaskill’s husband got federal dollars | McClatchy Washington Bureau

Billions in Military Contracts to Husband's Firms Were Approved by Sen. Feinstein's Committee, Metro Newspapers Investigation Reports | Business Wire.

It's ok because everyone is doing it? It's ok because he is taking less then others? It's ok because it's how the game is played?

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[MattB]

Here was an appointee that made his commitment of hunting and fishing access premiere. Why anyone who claims the same is their priority was against him is beyond my comprehension.

Some do not believe the end justifies the means. Regardless of whether a politician's platform agrees with mine, if they conduct themselves in an unethical manner I do not want them representing me.

I don't have a sense of how the ongoing ethics investigations will play out, but based on what I know Zinke's conduct smacks of political elitism.

 

[wind gypsy]

There are things about Zink that cause me pause but I have little faith that we’ll get anyone better for sportsman appointed. Bummer.

 

[Sodakhuntet]

Need someone in place that isn't a political real estate agent. Why have public lands become a pawn in politics?

 

[Okhotnik]

It's ok because everyone is doing it? It's ok because he is taking less then others? It's ok because it's how the game is played?

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Again how much tax payers money did Zinkes wife make off this supposed deal?

 

[realunlucky]

Again how much tax payers money did Zinkes wife make off this supposed deal?

So it's not a conflict of interest?

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[JWP58]

The same poster boys that slandered his nomination here are the same one's going around telling everyone to vote democrat on other threads. Pointing that out isn't being partisan. Its pointing out the truth.

Exactly. The same are completely silent on prior scandals/illegal activities because its their "team". Also let us not forget how certain staff have been strategically been leaking false info to steer the narrative throughout this current administration. But that's just conspiracy talk, even if it's documented.

But hey, maybe yvon will get a chance to run the doi...

 

[Rthur]

As I plainly stated James, in the original post, if he has broken the law, then let him stand for it. However simply pointing out something that may be illegal is not fact until proven to be so. Did he do as you suggest? It sees there is an investigation to determine that. Not your or my opinion.

I'll say it again. Point out anything I said that hasn't been true or was partisan. The same poster boys that slandered his nomination here are the same one's going around telling everyone to vote democrat on other threads. Pointing that out isn't being partisan. Its pointing out the truth. You've seen. Refer to y first post and my post preceding this one. I was not bashing the BHA.

Perhaps you should do as you suggest and see things for what is written instead of picking a side based on your preference for a certain group.

This is an old game of guilty until proven innocent in the public forum.
Reminds me of a SCOTUS appointment.

R

 

[Okhotnik]

So it's not a conflict of interest?

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So how much money did the combat vet and war hero and his wife make off of this?

Please give a detailed description of the investigation

I posted 2 links above regarding two current senators calling Zinke corrupt who both made over 150 million off the poor US tax payers


The selective outrage and ignorance is mind boggling

I sure miss the old Obama EPA who really cared for our wild lands

Three years after Colorado Gold King Mine spill, victims awaiting payment from EPA