ZeroTech TRACE ADV 3-18×44 FFP Shoot2Hunt

[nm.otter]

Merely pointing out the absurdity of their 'logic'
...in no way directed at you.

 

[Idaho_bow_hunter]

It seems like the popular opinion is in favor of the THLR reticle, but I can't get over how odd it looks. I also feel like those thick portion of the crosshairs especially the bottom vertical one would get in the way of holdover. The RMG-H looks simpler, less cluttered and more traditional. After looking at both reticles, I would instinctively pick the RMG-H, I'm not sure what I'm missing.

 

[PopNFresh]

I read it as a dial elevation and hold wind reticule that leaves a little room to alter elevation on the reticule to compensate if plans change during making shots
it trades utilizing elevation on the reticule for easier/faster targeting at low power and wind adjustments

 

[streamerfish]

It seems like the popular opinion is in favor of the THLR reticle, but I can't get over how odd it looks. I also feel like those thick portion of the crosshairs especially the bottom vertical one would get in the way of holdover. The RMG-H looks simpler, less cluttered and more traditional. After looking at both reticles, I would instinctively pick the RMG-H, I'm not sure what I'm missing.

Others can explain better probably.

But in simplistic terms, The "thick" crosshairs, in particular the vertical one, is designed to to extremely usable at 3x/4x power, in the timber, low light, up close, etc. Its basically supposed to be a German #1/German #4 type reticle at low power. As you zoom the rest of the reticle comes into play.

It does have specific "hold over" marks. If you understand what they are....Like for most non mag speeds.....the bottom line of the square aiming bracket is .5mil, for most people thats gonna be +- 200yds (assuming 100yd zero). The dot inside the smaller holdover circle is 1mil, roughly 300yards. The tip of the thick vertical post is 1.6 mil. Roughly 350yd hold. Anything past that and your dialing by design (if not before).

Having said that, it is a FFP scope and it's designed to be dialed, not ran as a BDC, SFP type of scope.

I think the other reticle looks pretty decent as well, definitely more "traditional" but still improved i would say (although i'm not big on the illumination idea personally.) I don't think it will be as good in close range, dark timber hunting as the THLR variant. And just not as intuitive (to my eyes).

I haven't seen it in person yet. But for my personal use case....Which is a single scope that is a FFP dial scope, that I can use up close and personal in the dark timber, and at range (out to 400-500yds at animals potentially, practice/fun shooting further) The THLR is the best looking reticle on paper I have seen.

( I haven't pre-ordered, because I want to see it in person first, just to confirm what I imagine it will look like).

 

[mwoolsey5]

( I haven't pre-ordered, because I want to see it in person first, just to confirm what I imagine it will look like).

I totally get this because I’m very much in the, “I want to feel something in my hands” before committing, but just wanted to say from handling the two scopes at the hunt expo, it was exactly what I imagined and expected. There’s going to be a learning curve, because it’s new and packed with features, but man, I think this is going to shake up the scope industry for hunters.

Some of these scope companies that had been approached before ZT have to be sitting there like, “Ok…we ****** up”.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

It seems like the popular opinion is in favor of the THLR reticle, but I can't get over how odd it looks.

Personally and I don’t think I am alone, I think curious is a better description. I want to try it and see for myself. I already know what to generally expect from the more standard reticle so out the gate I want to see if I like the one I don’t have experience with but is well regarded.

 

[Dobermann]

The RMG-H looks simpler, less cluttered and more traditional. After looking at both reticles, I would instinctively pick the RMG-H, I'm not sure what I'm missing.

You're missing the difference between "instinctively picking" and instinctively using.

 

[Dobermann]

Personally and I don’t think I am alone, I think curious is a better description. I want to try it and see for myself. I already know what to generally expect from the more standard reticle so out the gate I want to see if I like the one I don’t have experience with but is well regarded.

Out the gate, I think you'll like it ...

 

[5MilesBack]

It seems like the popular opinion is in favor of the THLR reticle, but I can't get over how odd it looks.

I was the opposite. The first time I saw the original THLR it was an epiphany moment. I think I actually heard angels in the background as well.

 

[9487329]

Some of these scope companies that had been approached before ZT have to be sitting there like, “Ok…we ****** up”.

Nah, that would assume that those companies are fast reacting as proactive. They won't fully realize their mistake until their CS emails are flooded by people asking why their scopes don't meet the new industry standard

 

[dårlig jeger]

I was the opposite. The first time I saw the original THLR it was an epiphany moment. I think I actually heard angels in the background as well.

I was like this when I watched @THLR videos on YouTube. As soon as I saw it in use, it was a euphoric rush like the drugs and hookers of yesteryear.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Out the gate, I think you'll like it ...

I'm thinking I will hence the curiosity and willingness to order. The bold centering posts and also the 1mil box making it really easy to reference a .5mil (box edge) or 1mil wind hold (first big line after the box) and split the difference of those as needed versus counting small ticks on a normal mil reticle.

 

[huntnful]

Personally and I don’t think I am alone, I think curious is a better description. I want to try it and see for myself. I already know what to generally expect from the more standard reticle so out the gate I want to see if I like the one I don’t have experience with but is well regarded.

Exactly my thoughts as well. What can it hurt.