Zelensky. Ukrainian president.

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I just don’t see today’s Americans having the stones the Ukrainians have. Many years ago hell yeah they did but with the feminization of America half the country isn’t going to know how to shoot a rifle, half the country is growing up being told guns are bad.
 
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There was a time if the US was under a similar invasion it's citizens would be lining up to take up arms to defend ourselves, in the modern day the much shorter line would be distracted by arguing because you didn't get the shiny rifle, the military asked asked your vaccination status, and one protest would begin over the lack of a transgender restroom on the battlefield and another because the flagpole flying the upside down American flag does not have a rainbow flag as well.

Please convince me I'm wrong....
Nailed it!!!
 

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All those worried about Climate change, racial inequality, and confused about which
bathroom to use need to go spend a couple weeks in Ukraine to get a new perspective
on life.
Yep...we have the guns and the ammo but unfortunately use them on each other because you were shorted a chicken nugget or somebody didn't get out of the left lane fast enough on the freeway
 

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Reddit r/ukraine is worth scrolling through. Its showing stuff way before media gets hold of it. So take some with grain of salt, but its more real than anywhere on net.
 
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There was a time if the US was under a similar invasion it's citizens would be lining up to take up arms to defend ourselves, in the modern day the much shorter line would be distracted by arguing because you didn't get the shiny rifle, the military asked asked your vaccination status, and one protest would begin over the lack of a transgender restroom on the battlefield and another because the flagpole flying the upside down American flag does not have a rainbow flag as well.

Please convince me I'm wrong....
I remember not too long ago when those same folks stormed police stations, burned entire city blocks, and occupied parts of a couple major cities for well over a month. They may be bat shit crazy, but I don't think America is as pussy as the Republican zeitgeist wants to think it is.


...plus we're all so fat retreat isn't an option. It's the modern day "burn the boats".
 
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America hasn't seen "tough times" in decades. Pretty sure Ted just took a vacation......just like every member of Congress and most Americans do. I heard that Biden left the WH for the weekend. But then again, I doubt it matters where he is at any time because everyone knows that he's not pulling the strings.
The loser is at camp David this weekend hanging out with his buddies the squirrels.
 
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Behold a leader....Every other president other than maybe Hungary's Orban would be cowering in fear. Hell, Trudeau was hiding from peaceful truck drivers with traeger grilles and bounce castles! lol....

Can't imagine that the US wants Ukraine spilling it's guts about the Biden family. Not intending to make this political, but what has happened is documented history and if history books were unbiased we'd read about a quid pro quo between this admin and Ukraine. It's all a disgusting disaster.
Makes me want to go fight beside them
 

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I remember not too long ago when those same folks stormed police stations, burned entire city blocks, and occupied parts of a couple major cities for well over a month. They may be bat shit crazy, but I don't think America is as pussy as the Republican zeitgeist wants to think it is.


...plus we're all so fat retreat isn't an option.
They did because the knew the liberal leaders of those cities tied the police force hands and told them to stand down. trust me if the police and national Gard were left to go after rioters, they would not have been so brave. Their true color would have been on display, YELLOW.
 

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I don’t disagree there are a lot of pansies in this country but there are still a lot of people that lace up the shit kickers when the going gets tough. They are just out in little towns working their asses off and don’t have much time to show their faces.
 
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First off, LOADS of admiration and respect for the Ukrainian soldiers and citizens standing and fighting. It is crushing to think they will not have NATO fighting at their side. With all their bravery, they can only hope, at best, to enter a long, nasty guerrilla war with Russia. Russia has only thrown a fraction of their resources at Ukraine.

I have to disagree with some of you saying US citizens would not respond with equal fortitude and conviction. There are many millions ready at the drop of the hat to defend this country. When the first bombs fell on our cities, the reality check would get many more millions join in. Don’t let the polarizing media and politicians fool you. We have much more common ground among us than they want you to believe.
 

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First off, LOADS of admiration and respect for the Ukrainian soldiers and citizens standing and fighting. It is crushing to think they will not have NATO fighting at their side. With all their bravery, they can only hope, at best, to enter a long, nasty guerrilla war with Russia. Russia has only thrown a fraction of their resources at Ukraine.

I have to disagree with some of you saying US citizens would not respond with equal fortitude and conviction. There are many millions ready at the drop of the hat to defend this country. When the first bombs fell on our cities, the reality check would get many more millions join in. Don’t let the polarizing media and politicians fool you. We have much more common ground among us than they want you to believe.
I sincerely hope you're right.
 

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Not so easy to parse out the facts from propaganda, but information seems to indicate a surprising number of Russian casualties captives. If the documentation is accurate, it would appear that the average sampling of the Russian invasion doesn’t have much motivation. If the Ukrainian footage of destroyed and abandoned soviet armor is accurate, it looks like a lot of archaic equipment. If much or any of this is true, it is potentially exposing the Soviet force as fairly weak in terms of motivation and technology. Perhaps not surprising given their economic state.

But, those 6,000 nukes and the ability for a 2nd strike response, plus the fact that any exchange will likely result in planetary extinction, will keep all of the opposing military players in check on this. The US sure isn’t going to risk a nuclear exchange over Ukraine. It would be difficult to imagine a nuclear response short of a direct and impending nuclear threat to US soil.
 
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