Zeiss Conquest V4 riflescope-- better option for price?

[06 SB]

@06 SB

Wait a minute....NightForce told you to pound sand and wouldn't fix a scope?

They fixed it. I just had to pay. I did and then sold it. NF are good scopes but like any optic, there can be failures. The CS/lack of warranty is the reason I will not buy another.

 

[06 SB]

@KenLee I picked up another V4 early Monday morning when Cabela's uploaded some cyber Monday deals. I got a V4 4-16x44 with the #64 reticle for $577 shipped to my house.

 

[bigsky2]

@KenLee I picked up another V4 early Monday morning when Cabela's uploaded some cyber Monday deals. I got a V4 4-16x44 with the #64 reticle for $577 shipped to my house.

Wow, thats a hell of a deal. Wish I would have seen that one.

 

[Tony R-MkMachining]

I own 2 v4's currently and I think they are the oldest scopes in my current line up. The 4-16 v4 i have was used for years and is reliable.
My issue is with it being a moa sfp scope, its now just collecting dust as through the years I evolved to shooting mil/mil scopes with ffp reticles.
From a sales standpoint, they will sell to a certain subsect of hunters, but the market is ever evolving to be more similar to the long range/comp world. I think you will see more new people getting into hunting influenced by long range articles and videos opting for the more current scopes rather than a V4.

Agreed. I think most people who have been in the game long enough now (and are not complacent) have moved to FFP MIL optics.

 

[Tony R-MkMachining]

The scope market is shifting. This very site and others like it are at least partly responsible. In addition to the market changing, consumers are realizing that features matter far less than proper function. And there are so few scopes that do function well. Optic manufacturers who understand that concept will sell more products than those who keep thinking lens coating, massive zoom range and gadgetry matters most, which is most of them. The consumer is becoming more educated on what really matters in a scope and demanding different products.

And OP, it’s refreshing that you come here and ask. We need more in the business like you. The manufacturers dont seem to want to listen to us consumers so maybe they’ll listen better to the retailers.

BTW, I just bought one of your scope levels. They’re my favorite ones.

Thanks for the support! Our new XLP levels are becoming my favorite.

We are connected with a lot of optic manufactures on more than just a dealer/manufacturer level and we can sometimes sway their opinion. However, many of the manufacturers in the running are large companies that take a very long time to make a decision, especially European companies that are trying to win in the USA market. It was refreshing to see Zeiss come out with their new NA (North American) V8 line and hopefully that is a trend in the right direction.

I find that chatting with guys on forums and having conversations with customers is one of the best ways to develop relationships and find out what the people are actually wanting. This is why I shoot rifle competitions most weekends to stay in touch with the community. The hunting community is so often divided that it is usually really hard to determine what direction to go, but I always enjoy the feedback I get from members on this forum specifically.

 

[SDHNTR]

Thanks for the support! Our new XLP levels are becoming my favorite.

We are connected with a lot of optic manufactures on more than just a dealer/manufacturer level and we can sometimes sway their opinion. However, many of the manufacturers in the running are large companies that take a very long time to make a decision, especially European companies that are trying to win in the USA market. It was refreshing to see Zeiss come out with their new NA (North American) V8 line and hopefully that is a trend in the right direction.

I find that chatting with guys on forums and having conversations with customers is one of the best ways to develop relationships and find out what the people are actually wanting. This is why I shoot rifle competitions most weekends to stay in touch with the community. The hunting community is so often divided that it is usually really hard to determine what direction to go, but I always enjoy the feedback I get from members on this forum specifically.

I couldn’t disagree with Zeiss more! The last thing American hunters need is an 8X erector. Just make a darn scope that works!

 

[nobody]

I couldn’t disagree with Zeiss more! The last thing American hunters need is an 8X erector. Just make a darn scope that works!

Yuuuuuuuup. Just build a 3 or 4-ish to 15 to 20-ish scope with a 40-50mm objective, FFP mil, capped windage, exposed elevation with zero stop that DOESNT LOSE ZERO and just flat works and they’d own the market. Especially if it came in at or under a grand retail.

 

[nobody]

It is all good. No concerns about confrontation on my part, just a good conversation.

I think you and I somewhat agree, especially on the singular purpose - steering the bullet to the target. Holding zero is another way to say it. I do not dial on my hunting rigs if it takes me a couple of tries to get a good zero then stays there, I am done with messing with turrets at that point and do not care about tracking. So any scope must be able hold zero...a given. Where I hunt on public land, the only opportunity at a good buck may be the first few moments of light. Meh glass is not going to work. It has happened to me and is the reason quality glass is where it is on my priorities. I have never had a Zeiss fail on me, whether the old german made ones, the Diavari Cs or the V4s. They have been durable for me whether bouncing around an ATV in GA, PA or CO, riding in a scabbard on a horse in Idaho or anywhere for that matter. I cannot say the same for multiple Leupolds, or a single NF. I also have a suspect Swarovski Z3 that may need a trip back to the factory this spring.

Ah I see, then yes we are saying almost the same thing. Although I think a scope’s turrets should work whether they’re capped or not, and it shouldn’t be finicky to sight in.

But honestly, I’ve not seen a modern scope from a legitimate optics retailer that would not allow me to shoot a game animal in shooting light. From a low level vortex to any number of high end optics. So personally, in 2024, that’s a moot point as far as I’m concerned.

ALL scopes should hold zero and track. Full stop, period, end of story. Price differences should be determined by glass and features.

 

[SDHNTR]

Yuuuuuuuup. Just build a 3 or 4-ish to 15 to 20-ish scope with a 40-50mm objective, FFP mil, capped windage, exposed elevation with zero stop that DOESNT LOSE ZERO and just flat works and they’d own the market. Especially if it came in at or under a grand retail.

And a reticle that can be easily seen at 3-4x!

 

[762 ULTRAMAGA]

Awful in low light?
What are you comparing the V4 to?
Surely not Leupold, swfa, vortex, nightforce

Yep several of those
This was about 5 years ago.
You get what you pay for with glass, it becomes very evident in low light or mirage situations

 

[ShortMagFan]

I think I have 3 Diavari scopes, one HT, one V6 and one V4. Like them all. They all have an asv turret and I’ve never had an issue. I’ve had over 40 sits for whitetail so far this fall, every one of them with a Zeiss scope on the gun. I’m not abusing them but they are getting raised and lowered in an out of stands, riding in my truck and utv, etc.

we have a range to 900 so do a decent amount of dialing too.

Not really on topic but my go to binos are Zeiss victory - either 8x45rf or 8x32 depending on what I’m doing

Safe to say I’m a Zeiss fanboy…

 

[KenLee]

Yep several of those
This was about 5 years ago.
You get what you pay for with glass, it becomes very evident in low light or mirage situations

For similar online prices of the V4 3-12x56, I think the 56mm Accupoint is the only scope comparable in low light. I do prefer the self adjusting center illumination of the Trijicon.