Zeiss Conquest V4 riflescope-- better option for price?

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I drop tested my V4. Thought it performed better than in Form's evaluation. Even in his eval the shifts were a lot less than other scopes and it's pretty abbreviated. Would like to see more long term use.

Sold it to a buddy when I moved to FFP though. He mounted it via the Form method, so I'm interested to see how it does going forward.

 

[06 SB]

You have used their warranty/customer service?

I tried once. I had a NXS 2.5-10 that quit tracking. It had been on a 243, 7mm-08 and a 6.5CM. I sent it in per their instructions. They denied the claim saying that the scope rings had been over torqued. I always mount my own scopes using quality rings and use a torque driver. There were VERY slight ring marks. I was done at that point. I have never had to send in a Zeiss or Swarovski scope.

 

[stooxie]

I had a V4 3-12x56 at one point, I remember it being insanely bright, almost on part with my Zeiss Victory HT and Leica Magnus. HOWEVER, the resolution and sharpness were not as good, which makes sense given the difference in glass quality.

To the OP's point, I think the V4s are a damn good scope, but they do need to be at the right price, i.e. in the 700-900 range. At list price they start to bump into other options.

(and, yes, I, too, got them all from Redhawk rifles!)

-Stooxie

 

[762 ULTRAMAGA]

****Admins, this may be potentially perceived the wrong way. Please remove if not allowed, but please read the entire blurb first****

So we stock the entire Zeiss lineup on our website. We do really-really well (for our size of company) selling the S3 line of scopes and a few of the pricy S5 optics. We have a lot of the V4 line of scopes on our shelves, but they seem to just collect dust for us. We do not have a large following of the hunter demographic where the V4's would apply, but we do have some crossover customers.

The issue that I'm trying to uncover is that we sell hunting optics in that price range to people all the time, just not any of the Conquest V4s. Are our customers dumb? (sorry any MKM customers, you aren't dumb and we love you!), Does our SEO just suck? Is there another brand selling a better product at that price point that I'm unaware of? (we are Swaro dealers as well with similar results in that price range).

We have been in the game long enough to see how the market swings and have watched product lines die when a new company comes a long and takes the wind out of their sale with either catchy marketing or attractive price with similar feature sets. That is part of my speculation, but I am unaware of who would be competing with this product line at said price point (again aside from Swaro).

**Just trying to gauge market interest (or lack of) from the crowd of people that I would assume know the best. I have gleamed awesome info from you Rokslider's in the past and hoping to hear some unbiased comments. I use a Zeiss optic on my comp rifle and wear a Zeiss hat almost every day, so I am biased, but my experience with rifles/scopes is more specialized in a different genre.

Have a great Turkey days guys, and hopefully an even better afternoon hunt afterwards!

I was a zeiss fan boy until I owned a v6 and v4 that wouldn't track or hold zero.
Also the v4 is awful in low light

 

[chindits]

I can’t speak to your question on why the hunting market is the way it is

As I’m sure you have noted, the vocal focus on rifle scope features on this site are likely not the same for average hunters. Likewise I’m sure you have noted that your customer base has their own focus. No matter, you should only be interested in what your customers are buying and not what someone thinks they should be buying.

That being said, I had my 4-16 out yesterday on a 300wm Savage 110 with a brake on it with some reloads from the pandemic era. I also had my 6.5 cm Tikka with me shooting last weeks reloads and a Creedo 2.5-15. Sad to say I had better groups with the lowly .300wm. I thought the clicks on the elevation turret on the zeiss was more defined. The reticle is a little thick and the parallax was too stiff for use with gloves on a negative 10 degree day, but the Creedo parallax was no joy either with the illumination outer ring and parallax inner.

As far as durability and hunting. I just don’t know on the Zeiss. I never felt the need to throw a rifle on the ground and check zero until this year with another unnamed scope. I had removed my rifle from my pack gun bearer system to get through some oak brush. Both feet slipped at the same time on a steep climb and I dropped my rifle from hand carry height to prevent the face plant. Rifle hit a rock scope first around the side of the power ring with enough force to knock the throw lever off the scope and make two small holes in my neoprene scope cover. I subsequently shot a bull later that morning at 450 meters with no wind, tree front support and pack rear body support and probably a solid 4-6 minutes to make the shot. I was a little surprised at where the bullet hit, and I wanted to check things out after the pack out.

I checked zero and noted my rounds migrate back to my zero. I took a closed cell sleeping pad and simulated the impact from a knee high drop. After every drop my zero was off 2-3 inches in the same direction at 100 meters. At 450 meters this would be roughly 9-13 inches. So now I debate whether to preemptively test my other scopes or pretend like I’ll never drop my rifles while hunting.

 

[WyOwen]

I have had 3 v4 4-16’s. Initially I really liked them… got a good deal on them ..

All three would shift horizontally from riding in a pickup. It happened with all of them. That’s why I no longer have them, and do not recommend them to anyone.