Yet another Fierce Firearms Issue...2024

[waspocrew]

Wow, that sucks. Sorry you're going through this hassle. Like others mentioned, it's pretty simple/quick to check torque on action screws, scope base/rings, etc. I'd check those to make sure there isn't anything obviously loose then send it back to them. You bought the entire system - it should function properly.

 

[Scottf270]

No way I'd go to the hassle of sending it back without at least verifying the simple things like mounts, rings, torque etc. It could be something super simple.
Without them shooting and verifying the gun and scope system, what did you gain by buying the scope and rings from them?
No way I'd buy a "system" from any company that wasn't shot and tested before delivery. Fierce would be smart to just add in the additional cost from the start and shoot every rifle before it left the factory. Sometimes pinching pennies leads to headaches for all.

 

[Spoonbill]

If you can, run a bore scope down the barrel. Not being a smartass but there is another thread on here about a fierce rifle that didn’t have rifling. If nothing else, it is evidence you can use if you need to get an attorney involved.

 

[weaver]

Id send it in. Even if you end up paying the $200 thats less then you’ll get into it rebarreling or wasting ammo.

 

[Schism]

I wouldn't trust a company that has been known to ship rifles with no rifling to be able to properly mount a scope. Take everything apart, degrease and reassemble. Have your old friend who builds customs help you if you are unsure of what you are doing.

 

[TimberRunner]

My carbon fury in 300wsm shoots everything I put in it sub moa.

 

[Pistol58]

I can’t see how CA or Firece stay in business. I’d buy a ruger American before one of their guns.

Its funny you say this. When I called earlier this week I told them I bought a ruger american for my son about 4 years ago, absolute shooter. A tack driver. And will eat up any round you run through it. So much so that 3 of my buddies also bought one.

It was 1/10 of the price too...

 

[Pistol58]

Id send it in. Even if you end up paying the $200 thats less then you’ll get into it rebarreling or wasting ammo.

This is where I am currently. Ive spent $350+/- on ammmo and range fees so far... at some point I need them to just fix it..

 

[Pistol58]

Also, I am not never one to jump on a forum and bash companies. I'm just kicking myself for my judgement after reading all the threads on here already..

If they make it right, and it does turn out to be a good shooter, I have no problem updating. I get things happen at the factory, but its just super frustrating right now. As a company I am surprised they wouldn't be jumping through hoops to make the customer happy. Instead they are nickel and diming me (even slightly blaming the shooter) instead of "send it back to us immediately on our dime and let us fix it".

I realize they probably do get some customers that have no idea what they are doing.. and that could get troublesome sending everything back frequently, but I explained my process, even offered to send them pictures and video, and they wanted none of it. It was almost like their standard reply "fill this out.. end it back..4 weeks.. blah blah) like they have done this a time or two..

 

[Laelkhunter]

If you do send it back, and they later tell you it meets their specs and you owe them $200, I would ask them for the test target and a box of the ammo they shot the group with. Don't settle for the "O we shot 'such and such' and it grouped well". I would want the same exact ammo they used. Then when you get it back and it still doesn't shoot any better you know they f'd you.

 

[8404]

Just send the rifle in.

Scenario #1) They get the rifle, something is wrong with it, they fix it, they own up to it, you get the rifle back and you have the package you were after when you ordered the rifle.

Scenario #2) They get the rifle, something is wrong with it, they fix it, they keep it a secret and you get stuck paying $200 (plus shipping)... but you end up with the package you were after when you ordered the rifle. Plus the gained understanding to never do business with that company again.

Scenario #3) They get the rifle, there is nothing wrong with it, they send back proof that you can't shoot. You owe $200 (plus shipping) and you still end up with the package you were after when you ordered the rifle.

It's $200 (plus shipping maybe) and you said you're up against an approaching deer season. What is your time worth? I don't have lots of money but I certainly wouldn't have done so much hand wringing over three boxes of match ammo worth of money.

Send the rifle back. Have them get it shooting one way or another.

However. If that rifle comes back and you owe $200, regardless of how you came to owe $200 to get a new rifle shooting the way it is advertised to... there is zero chance that company ever gets another dollar from me.

If you've bought "hundreds of rifles" then just dig out another one for your upcoming deer hunt.

 

[Pistol58]

Just send the rifle in.

Scenario #1) They get the rifle, something is wrong with it, they fix it, they own up to it, you get the rifle back and you have the package you were after when you ordered the rifle.

Scenario #2) They get the rifle, something is wrong with it, they fix it, they keep it a secret and you get stuck paying $200 (plus shipping)... but you end up with the package you were after when you ordered the rifle. Plus the gained understanding to never do business with that company again.

Scenario #3) They get the rifle, there is nothing wrong with it, they send back proof that you can't shoot. You owe $200 (plus shipping) and you still end up with the package you were after when you ordered the rifle.

It's $200 (plus shipping maybe) and you said you're up against an approaching deer season. What is your time worth? I don't have lots of money but I certainly wouldn't have done so much hand wringing over three boxes of match ammo worth of money.

Send the rifle back. Have them get it shooting one way or another.

However. If that rifle comes back and you owe $200, regardless of how you came to owe $200 to get a new rifle shooting the way it is advertised to... there is zero chance that company ever gets another dollar from me.

If you've bought "hundreds of rifles" then just dig out another one for your upcoming deer hunt.

Thats the plan. And you are right, I have plenty of other deer rifles I have been using this season.

Just hate to throw $200 away knowing its not the shooter.

 

[8404]

Thats the plan. And you are right, I have plenty of other deer rifles I have been using this season.

Just hate to throw $200 away knowing its not the shooter.

If you're 100% confident that it's not your shooting (and I believe you), then only dishonesty on their part results in you owing $200. Send the rifle in and you'll have your answer.

 

[csp20108]

Have you only shot it at 100 yards? I would try 25 yards to see if you're getting any kind of performance there and then gradually walk it back until you either determine that it's A) inaccurate everywhere, or B) inaccuracy develops at a certain distance. Sometimes rifles with bad barrels will keyhole at one distance with no issue at others.

 

[Pistol58]

Have you only shot it at 100 yards? I would try 25 yards to see if you're getting any kind of performance there and then gradually walk it back until you either determine that it's A) inaccurate everywhere, or B) inaccuracy develops at a certain distance. Sometimes rifles with bad barrels will keyhole at one distance with no issue at others.

I have not. At my local range I have 100, 200, 300.

I am sending it back today. I will update this post as things progress.

 

[wind gypsy]

I wouldn't trust a company that has been known to ship rifles with no rifling to be able to properly mount a scope. Take everything apart, degrease and reassemble. Have your old friend who builds customs help you if you are unsure of what you are doing.

Agree but also if I were a rifle manufacturer I wouldn’t put much faith in the word of anyone who doesn't want to mount a scope themselves or has validated action screws and scope mounting are torqued appropriately.

 

[Pistol58]

Agree but also if I were a rifle manufacturer I wouldn’t put much faith in the word of anyone who doesn't want to mount a scope themselves or has validated action screws and scope mounting are torqued appropriately.

All of that was checked.

 

[SchwarzStock]

Sell it, cut your losses and run.

 

[fatbacks]

I sent a rifle back to them two times and they swore nothing was wrong with it. The rifle would absolutely not shoot worth a damn. Ended up pulling the barrel and sure enough the action screws were out of spec and the forward screw was crunched up against the threads on the barrel - but hey, Fierce checked it twice and said nothing was wrong with it and that I was the problem

You could send it in, but I would have little confidence they will do their best to make sure your rifle actually shoots well