Hunting with a suppressor - concerns about fragility of suppressor or another thing to go wrong?

[Rolando]

Aren't you fancy...

The point is more how easily/quickly I can replace a barrel and keeping accurate rifles accurate for hunts that need accuracy (my spot and stalk bear and mule deer hunts), while if this savage has a damaged crown and is a 2.5MOA gun that's not a big deal in the rainforest.



No doubt, but is it fair to say every time I ruin a barrel hunting, the suppressor would be ruined if I had one on?

"Every time"? Is this a habitual thing?

 

[Sundodger]

How is the barrel ruined in that picture? Looks like you broke the action screws or something then taped it back together.

Settle down there son, it was a fun picture I had handy for a time when a scope mount failed which I brought up earlier in this thread (see below). I will have to dig up some barrel damage pictures, I don't have any handy at the moment.

I am really surprised you Alaskans don't fight this struggle.

I have similar concerns about durability. While I do take good care of my stuff, where I really want a suppressor is when I am still hunting Rosie Elk or blacktails in the rainforest. On spot/stalk mountain mule deer and bear hunts where chance of damaging equipment is low, putting in ear pro is easy.

But the rainforest ruins everything; barrels, scope mounts, scopes, you name it, rainforest hunting ruins it. I am worried the how many bad tumbles you get where the suppressor takes a faceplant into the mud does it take to be irreparably damaged.

"Every time"? Is this a habitual thing?

Thank god not every time, and I am hoping less often now that I don't need to keep my elk/blacktail rifle accurate.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Settle down there son, it was a fun picture I had handy for a time when a scope mount failed which I brought up earlier in this thread (see below). I will have to dig up some barrel damage pictures, I don't have any handy at the moment.

I am really surprised you Alaskans don't fight this struggle.




Thank god not every time, and I am hoping less often now that I don't need to keep my elk/blacktail rifle accurate.

Even on the Internet, this is the first time I’m hearing of this being a regular problem. So if you damage a savage barrel and 2.5 moa is good enough for what you do, why not just beat on your tikka? Isn’t this the entire reason for the drop testing protocols and stuff like that?

While I haven’t known anybody who’s damaged a barrel, I do know a guy who missed a 65” bull because he was babying his rifle so much that he had it inside of his nomar case when the bull showed up.

Anyways I’m done here, every time I ask you a question you tell me to settle down or accuse me of being angry. I’m not dealing with that line of BS today. Use a silencer or don’t.

 

[SuperDUECE22]

Is this something I need to be concerned about? Do you feel the need to baby the suppressor to protect it or it's threaded connection to the barrel (I direct connect)?

No concern, no need to baby it. I've been hunting with the same suppressor since 2015 and have had zero issues. It is direct thread and gets swapped between many rifles and still hasn't cause me any problems.

 

[199p]

I’ve definitely been accused of being a thinker before. I suppose I’m on the right website for thinking about details on hunting topics. Given my impressions that the suppressor seems more vulnerable than just a bare barrel, I was surprised I couldn’t find more discussions on the topic. The dropping of scopes for failure has a big following and I’ve seen the freezing of actions as another example of questioning tolerances. I haven’t seen anything about dropping a rifle with the suppressor hitting the ground first or banging the suppressor against the wall a bit to see how things function after.

thats because your worries really just aren't a thing

 

[Sundodger]

Even on the Internet, this is the first time I’m hearing of this being a regular problem. So if you damage a savage barrel and 2.5 moa is good enough for what you do, why not just beat on your tikka? Isn’t this the entire reason for the drop testing protocols and stuff like that?

While I haven’t known anybody who’s damaged a barrel, I do know a guy who missed a 65” bull because he was babying his rifle so much that he had it inside of his nomar case when the bull showed up.

Anyways I’m done here, every time I ask you a question you tell me to settle down or accuse me of being angry. I’m not dealing with that line of BS today. Use a silencer or don’t.

That was the OP, my last post was my first time I insinuated you were getting excited.


Well, I wasn't going to clutter up this thread with this background, but since you asked.

For a long time I always liked to be a "one gun man", which comes with advantages and disadvantages. One of the big downside was accuracy (where it isn't needed). I was constantly repairing my rifle often franticly between seasons, sometimes to just keep it functional, but more often keeping it at around a 1 MOA gun because some of my hunts do need that accuracy. The one year I didn't bring a backup rifle elk hunting I had to drive 3 hours to a gun smith to get some repairs made. After too many damaged barrels, scopes, rings, etc. I decided the disadvantages outweighed the positives and a dedicated rainforest rifle was the better play.

Using a Savage as a dedicated rainforest rifle has these advantages over just dedicating one of my Tikkas to the Gulag:
-Cheaper than a Tikka
-Cheap off the shelf barrels off that are fast to swap
-Tang safety is really nice for still hunting

 

[199p]

I agree with much of what @Southern Lights said above.

Cans are another point of failure whether we like it or not. You do need to make sure it's tight or you risk a baffle strike. My cans get loose (barely) during range days, rarely when I'm out hunting but it always good to make sure.

I don't really baby my cans but they normally have a suppressor cover or a solo hunter rifle cover on when hunting. I am harder on my Huxwrx Ventum than i am on my Ultra 7. Never thought of someone denting a can but i guess it could happen haha. Mirage is a real thing here in AZ and it doesnt take many shots to heat up titanium, the cover helps a ton

Some guys will take a light profile barrel and get it threaded to accept a suppressor, leaving barely any steel for the suppressor to be supported by and essentially zero shoulder. Adding the suppressor (a 4-8" lever) to a barrel like that is asking for issues, especially if you're gonna be tough on your gearS

I am happy with TBAC CB system. Its on/off pretty quick, uses a taper and i don't risk messing up my 5/8x24 threads on the barrel with the on/off all the time. Be wary other other QD options.

I Built my 7prc with the intent to use the Ultra 7 on it, went with a 22" carbon wrapped sendero contour so it can support a can without any problem and still handle well. While its an awesome rifle, my only wish is that i could have a folding stock of some kind, to reduce how much the can sticks up when hiking but then you're adding another failure point to the system

Bro, there are hundreds of light barrel kimblers and howas roaming around NZ, and it's not an issue.
You don't see suppressors stripping threads and flying off left, right and centre.

 

[barrister]

Even on the Internet, this is the first time I’m hearing of this being a regular problem. So if you damage a savage barrel and 2.5 moa is good enough for what you do, why not just beat on your tikka? Isn’t this the entire reason for the drop testing protocols and stuff like that?

While I haven’t known anybody who’s damaged a barrel, I do know a guy who missed a 65” bull because he was babying his rifle so much that he had it inside of his nomar case when the bull showed up.

Anyways I’m done here, every time I ask you a question you tell me to settle down or accuse me of being angry. I’m not dealing with that line of BS today. Use a silencer or don’t.

Maybe it’s best if you did leave the thread. You really create the impression of being an extreme jerk.

 

[barrister]

I appreciate all the helpful comments. Good to hear it’s largely a non-issue (which I figured was the case).

I will make one observation. I’m a little surprised at the combative nature of some comments. I certainly didn’t ask from a position that anyone needed to “defend” a suppressor or their use of one. Just wanted to learn if there are clear “dos or don’ts” when using them in the field. Given the presence of all the threads where scopes are dropped seeking failure points, or freezing actions/triggers in ice to question functionality, I’m surprised some people seem to react like it’s beyond reproach to wonder about a suppressor’s potential failure points.

Anyway, thanks for the good information. Still debating whether to cut and thread the 6.5CM.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

I was on a horseback hunt in which a guy was screwing his TBAC on and off the CB muzzle brake each time he got off/on the horse. After a few days, the brake came off with the can, and it was stuck in there.

Hunted with suppressed 18" Tikka last fall. Just make sure your outfitter or horsemen has scabbards that are compatible with suppressed rifles. Tape the end just like you'd do your barrel and forget about it. Just make sure its tight if it rides for a long time.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Anything can fail if you use it wrong enough. Use whatever you consider reasonable caution and a damaged suppressor will likely not be an issue you experience, ever.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Maybe it’s best if you did leave the thread. You really create the impression of being an extreme jerk.

Name calling because you don’t like what I’m saying huh??? lol seems like you’re the one who should be leaving the thread.

 

[barrister]

Name calling because you don’t like what I’m saying huh??? lol seems like you’re the one who should be leaving the thread.

Well, I started the thread and most responses have been very helpful. I think I’ll stay. I actually liked what you had to say about being done and leaving the BS behind you. I’m not sure why you changed your mind.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Well, I started the thread and most responses have been very helpful. I think I’ll stay. I actually liked what you had to say about being done and leaving the BS behind you. I’m now sure why you changed your mind.

I don’t know why you’re getting so hurt. It’s not something worth worrying about and that’s really all I’ve said. It’s ok, you can still leave the thread if you don’t want to be exposed to the horrors of hearing opinions you don’t like.

I just went back through and read the whole thing, not a single thing I said was insulting to anybody, I was simply questioning a guy as to how he broke rifle barrels. Why is that so offensive to you?

 

[barrister]

I don’t know why you’re getting so hurt. It’s not something worth worrying about and that’s really all I’ve said. It’s ok, you can still leave the thread if you don’t want to be exposed to the horrors of hearing opinions you don’t like.

I thinks it’s clear that I have no issue with opinions. I specifically asked for them. What I really don’t like is people who state their “opinion” in a needlessly combative way along with passive aggressive insults included. It definitely dilutes and devalues that opinion. Such as some of what you have apparently tried to say. Just my opinion.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I thinks it’s clear that I have no issue with opinions. I specifically asked for them. What I really don’t like is people who state their “opinion” in a needlessly combative way along with passive aggressive insults included. It definitely dilutes and devalues that opinion. Such as some of what you have apparently tried to say. Just my opinion.

I was never combative. Not telling you what you want to hear is not being “combative”. You are accusing me of something while calling me names. Why do that? What have I said that’s combative???

 

[barrister]

I am open to hearing everything about experiences using a suppressor in the field, so there is no like or dislike about whatever you are trying to convey. Do you see me having any issue with anyone else who has commented and graciously answered my question with true experience/opinion? What I don’t appreciate are your statements about me being “scared” to use my equipment, focused on not scratching equipment, that my question is ridiculous and that you intended to be condescending while stating your “opinion”. Those are excerpts from your posts.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I am open to hearing everything about experiences using a suppressor in the field, so there is no like or dislike about whatever you are trying to convey. Do you see me having any issue with anyone else who has commented and graciously answered my question with true experience/opinion? What I don’t appreciate is your statements about me being “scared” to use my equipment, focused on not scratching equipment, that my question is ridiculous and that you intended to be condescending while stating your “opinion”. Those are excerpts from your posts.

That’s hilarious. That’s what hurt your feelings to the point you called me names???

 

[barrister]

That’s hilarious. That’s what hurt your feelings to the point you called me names???

My “hurt feelings”. LOL. It’s more accurate to say they led to forming my opinion - that you communicate like a jerk. If you don’t like hearing my opinion, that’s OK. I don’t have anything more to add, so have a good evening.

 

[realunlucky]

Holy smokes this thread is off the rails.

Reel yourself in and offer other members some respect or keep scrolling.

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