Wyoming corner crossing lawsuit

[WyoBowhunter21]

Being a Wyoming resident, and past access to our family ranch I am excited to see what this case brings. Currently the discussion keeps being turned down. Maybe this case will end up in the Supreme Court and in the favor of hunters. Corner crossing is access to public land.

 

[Jimmyc73]

Hoping this is resolved soon. keep building preference points till this crap gets sorted out.

 

[HiMtnHntr]

I wouldn't hold my breath, or points...

 

[Justin Crossley]

It's really too bad WY doesn't adopt laws like in ND. It's the best state I've personally ever been in when it comes to accessing public lands.

Every section line is a walking easement (30' wide I believe) unless there is a road in which case you can drive the section line.

 

[Sccritterkiller]

Hoping this is resolved soon. keep building preference points till this crap gets sorted out.

They will pass a law to cut NR tags to 10% way before this is settled.

 

[nodakian]

It's really too bad WY doesn't adopt laws like in ND. It's the best state I've personally ever been in when it comes to accessing public lands.

Every section line is a walking easement (30' wide I believe) unless there is a road in which case you can drive the section line.

Yes, it's really nice. 66 feet, 33 each side of every section line unless specifically closed by the county commission. I belive SD has the same.

Many western states had the opportunity to do the same at statehood but didn't take advantage of it. To create it now would involve condemnation proceedings and compensation.

 

[jbwright]

Yes, it's really nice. 66 feet, 33 each side of every section line unless specifically closed by the county commission. I belive SD has the same.

Many western states had the opportunity to do the same at statehood but didn't take advantage of it. To create it now would involve condemnation proceedings and compensation.

Had no idea. Really interesting and logical to have this buffer zone.

 

[wind gypsy]

It's really too bad WY doesn't adopt laws like in ND. It's the best state I've personally ever been in when it comes to accessing public lands.

Every section line is a walking easement (30' wide I believe) unless there is a road in which case you can drive the section line.

I always took that for granted for the years i lived in ND. It's accepted because it's always been that way but I couldn't support transitioning to that system in another state where every property owner in the state purchased land under different conditions.

 

[wind gypsy]

Buzz posted up the defendant's motion over on Randy's forum. 66 pages of good stuff. They disputed the charges on 3 separate angles.

Some interesting documents from the sheriffs and warden included.

Initially the sheriff didn't charge them and noted to the ranch manager that the county attorney "doesn't prosecute corner crossing".

Ranch manager was on the body cam making statements about how much money and land the Land owner (Fred Eshelman) has.

After land owner calls to the county attorney it seems she had a change in heart. (this detail wasn't covered as far as I saw in the request for dismissal).

other recent articles: https://www.hcn.org/issues/54.3/nor...d-with-trespassing-on-land-they-never-touched

Commissioner pulls commissioner tag from BHA in fear of donation indicating he favors legal corner crossing: https://wyofile.com/corner-crossing-bill-emerges-as-gf-commissioner-pulls-license-donation/
Legislator saying the previously referred to "corner crossing bill" isn't about corner crossing

Crago: Trespass bill not a ‘corner-crossing’ measure - WyoFile

A lawmaker plans to clarify the language in a proposed bill, which he stressed Tuesday is not aimed to address controversial corner crossing.

wyofile.com

And an unrelated interesting article about the Elk Mountain Ranch Owner:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/true-vote-lawsuit-fraud-eshelman/2021/02/15/a7017adc-6724-11eb-886d-5264d4ceb46d_story.html

 

[wind gypsy]

Landowner is now trying to scare the defendants away from their fight with the costs of an expensive civil suit. This whole thing is a pretty damning example of the wealth buying the law.

Corner crossers face new civil suit as prosecutor tries to add charge - WyoFile

The controversy over four bowhunters challenging criminal trespass charges intensifies as landowner Fredric Eshelman filed a civil suit seeking monetary damages from the Missouri men.

wyofile.com

 

[QuackAttack]

I donated. Hunters need to speak with $$$ because that’s what talks.


Donate to the fight.

 

[GotDraw?]

Put your money where your mouth is.
I donated.
J

 

[alpinewanderer]

Donated double digits!

 

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Big Money fighting the working man. Why should the public support public lands if the public can't access them. Looks like the public is funding public lands just for the enjoyment of the private land owners around it. Part of this is also about air space..... How far up do you go with air space. Are land owners going to start charging airline to cross over their lands. This is a mess because of big money. NOTE: I own a lot of land..

 

[muledeerchaser]

The little known UNLAWFUL ENCLOSURE ACT will come into play and the hunters will be granted access…………

 

[Slugz]

http://nationalaglawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/assets/bibarticles/rosenthalgillon_fence.pdf

Muledeerchaser, thats quite the interesting read above above. You a lawyer ? and why haven't we heard of this before or did I miss it.

Thank you

 

[dreamingbig]

Glad I didn’t waste any money on this effort. With the entire state on the way to 90/10 the kings there can fight this alone.


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[CJ19]

Glad I didn’t waste any money on this effort. With the entire state on the way to 90/10 the kings there can fight this alone.


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I guess i took for granted just how flush with money these western states and so called sportsmans groups like bha are. They have been playing the NR public land hunting crowd for their own benefit for awhile now it seems like. The conversation surrounding this issue certainly changed my perspective. Played.

 

[Elknr1975]

Rinella posted it on his IG yesterday, there's a gofundme for these guys! I think the whole deal is BS and I hope they win!

Same here!

 

[Elknr1975]

I grew up near the ranch in question. Another angle for everyone to consider- I have considered purchasing property with a similar situation where it backed up to BLM. That really can influence land value... I ended up not buying but I learned quite a bit. If this becomes legal, a lot of land is going to lose value. People who bought property with a similar corner will now stand to lose quite a bit of money. Right or wrong, it is a point of contention.

I personally believe corner crossing should be negotiated, and landowners compensated yearly, to offset the loss they would take.

It’s not there property behind! It’s public land.
So what if there property loses value