WY Corner crossing update

[DoctorJJ]

43 U.S. Code § 1061 - Inclosure of or assertion of right to public lands without title

www.law.cornell.edu

Here is what I came up with. I’m not a lawyer but I would suppose the original land owners in the corner crossing would be arguing that they haven’t constructed any enclosure and therefore aren’t restricting access and aren‘t claiming exclusive use of the public land.

 

[Fordguy]

Do you have a link for that act?

I read through the act during the Iron Bar corner crossing trial, but all I've got at the moment is a reference to the act from the Wyofile.

Case history makes it clear: Locking out the public is illegal - WyoFile

The law provides humans, animals and wildlife access to federal public lands, Parsons opines. Court challenges have clarified this.

wyofile.com

 

[Fordguy]

43 U.S. Code § 1061 - Inclosure of or assertion of right to public lands without title

www.law.cornell.edu

Here is what I came up with. I’m not a lawyer but I would suppose the original land owners in the corner crossing would be arguing that they haven’t constructed any enclosure and therefore aren’t restricting access and aren‘t claiming exclusive use of the public land.

Possession- effectively the purchasing private or.trqding a few.private parcels for.public land with the intent to keep people.from accessing public land could.easily.be interpreted as inclosing.
I realize that there are properties that completely surround public lands, without corners available for crossing.
That doesn't make it ethical or just for a landowner to enjoy exclusive access to property that he or she doesn't own exclusively. As demand for.access to public lands increases and more people become aware of the situation I expect there to be more legal challenges.

 

[DoctorJJ]

Possession- effectively the purchasing private or.trqding a few.private parcels for.public land with the intent to keep people.from accessing public land could.easily.be interpreted as inclosing.
I realize that there are properties that completely surround public lands, without corners available for crossing.
That doesn't make it ethical or just for a landowner to enjoy exclusive access to property that he or she doesn't own exclusively. As demand for.access to public lands increases and more people become aware of the situation I expect there to be more legal challenges.

Oh, I agree. There should not be one square inch of public land that isn’t legally accessible by the public, IMO. Land that is public that is surrounded by private should have an easement or the government and the property owner should have to come to some type of swap agreement to exchange land that is accessible.

 

[Gobbler36]

The attitude of these guys in this video is beyond infuriating to think that is land we rightfully have access to and they think they are entitled to!
they are pieces of shit

 

[RyanT26]

While buzzh isn’t around anymore to update us lol, corner crossing has been deemed legal.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit has affirmed the legality of corner crossing, a major victory for hunters, anglers, and all public lands users. This decision upholds the right to access millions of acres of public land.


In their ruling, the Tenth Circuit Justices concluded,


"Iron Bar cannot implement a program which has the effect of "deny[ing] access to [federal] public lands for lawful purposes[.] "So the district court was correct to hold that the Hunters could corner-cross as long as they did not physically touch Iron Bar's land. We affirm."


The ruling confirms that landowners cannot block access to public land by claiming private ownership of the airspace above a property corner. As long as public land users do not physically touch private land, corner crossing is LEGAL.


This landmark decision applies to Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming - setting a precedent that could shape public land access nationwide.

 

[deltadukman]

Open the doors for a company to make corner crossing apparatus's. Would be great if the federal government would implement that at the corners of their properties. Give some sweetheart deal to someone. We waste more on less anyway, might as well put it to good use.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Open the doors for a company to make corner crossing apparatus's. Would be great if the federal government would implement that at the corners of their properties. Give some sweetheart deal to someone. We waste more on less anyway, might as well put it to good use.

I like it, permanently install the air-crossing ladder at all corners so there's no dispute or guessing where a corner is.

 

[SouthernCharm]

The government should go in now and request a 6’ easement at the corners to allow access from one government property to another . They should pay the landowner for that privilege and create a fenced trail to keep you on government property. Otherwise, the landowners could basically build a 5’ long fence at their corners x high that prevents crossings thus just making for more days in court.

 

[TurkeyReaper69]

What a great day to be a public land hunter. I work for the BLM, I hit my 2 year anniversary with the agency next month. This case was one of many things that spurred my interest in a career with the BLM, beyond grateful for this outcome.

 

[jkoehle1]

How cool are the backpack ladders gonna be lol

 

[UpNorth89]

How cool are the backpack ladders gonna be lol

I'm sure UM is working on a Rokladder prototype as we speak.

 

[mtwarden]

I’ve got a slick carbon fiber one, pretty close to being ready to go.

 

[Pacific_Fork]

2025 hunting bros: What ladder are you “running” for October mule deer during a full moon?

 

[manitou1]

The government should go in now and request a 6’ easement at the corners to allow access from one government property to another . They should pay the landowner for that privilege and create a fenced trail to keep you on government property. Otherwise, the landowners could basically build a 5’ long fence at their corners x high that prevents crossings thus just making for more days in court.

They cannot legally restrict access to public lands.
This is outlined in the 10ths decision.

 

[manitou1]

2025 hunting bros: What ladder are you “running” for October mule deer during a full moon?

The same one we'll be runnin' during all other moon phases...

 

[actionshooter]

I believe this is a 10th district court ruling... doesn't apply to a lot of other states in the 9th district...

 

[mtwarden]

I believe this is a 10th district court ruling... doesn't apply to a lot of other states in the 9th district...

It doesn’t “officially” but I guarantee you that the “gates will be open” in Montana after this ruling. No county attorney would want to touch a case like this, especially after this ruling.

A hunter will still need to do his part in insuring that he is accurately going from corner to corner.

 

[180ls1]

It doesn’t “officially” but I guarantee you that the “gates will be open” in Montana after this ruling. No county attorney would want to touch a case like this, especially after this ruling.

A hunter will still need to do his part in insuring that he is accurately going from corner to corner.

Thanks for sharing.


General musing, are we still at the "bring an A frame ladder" or more like "have onX open marking your track, zoom all the way in and be very careful?"

 

[mtwarden]

Just my opinion, but I think if a guy carefully crossed, no need for a ladder.

Like I said above, I don't see a county attorney wanting to touch one of these cases with a 10' pole. Now if a guy is missing the corner by a bunch, at the wrong corner, etc—you'll definitely be cited and prosecuted.