Would you buy this scope?

[Okie_Poke]

What's this "we" hivemind perspective? I would love for it to have been Vortex or even better Leupold. Their no-questions-asked-smash-your-scope-and-we'll-send-you-a-new-one-and-a-hat warranty is amazing. Maven also has this type of warranty. Given that LOW is the manufacturer, the only benefit of the retailer will be warranty once it hits production.

Vortex scopes don't hold zero, but most of their other stuff is completely serviceable. Same with Leupold. Seems like at least Vortex is starting to notice the ruggedization demand.

And one would think it would be a relatively light lift for Vortex to update their LOW-made lines to the rugged version. Maybe we’ll see some of that if this scope does well. I hope S2H records all the abuse they put this thing through, assuming it continues to perform, and they and zero tech market the hell out of that performance. I don’t see major brands responding to market pressure otherwise.

 

[Shortschaf]

@Ryan Avery @Formidilosus

Thanks for taking on this project and getting these scopes to reality. I know folks took the idea on this thread and ran with it, but some sort of pre order does make sense after listening to the latest podcast. And given the timeline, I wouldn't balk too much at paying full price for the scope when the LOW contract needs to be paid in order for them to leave Japan and waiting 12 to 15 days to have it in hand.

Yes 2 weeks advance payment is no problem. Hell, $100 deposit too.
I will sign up for the first batch whenever they ask for takers

 

[Snowhunter11]

Good on Shoot2hunt and good on zero tech for being the facilitator. I agree the world of scopes will be changing and we all will benefit from this design. Thanks guys for your time and commitment to relentless pursuit of performance and functionality. Bravo

 

[Tahoe1305]

@Formidilosus

Is this the same internals as the zero tech trace advanced? I stumbled upon your drop eval from a few years back and was expecting it to be a pass, but was surprised it didn’t read to be.

Based on how the S2H scope performed I assume it is different but want to confirm.

Thx.

 

[benconfused]

@Formidilosus

Is this the same internals as the zero tech trace advanced? I stumbled upon your drop eval from a few years back and was expecting it to be a pass, but was surprised it didn’t read to be.

Based on how the S2H scope performed I assume it is different but want to confirm.

Thx.

Yes they called this out in the podcast but none of that existing line has this technology. (If I understood Jake correctly).

 

[Frozenlead]

After listening to the podcast, it sounds like for $6k and 6 months we can get a proper MOA reticle made. . I’ll show myself the door.

I think preorders are a great idea. For us north of the border the big question is who/ how will they be retailing/ distributing them. We have a UM distributor and Zero tech as well. Obviously the latter would be better for both tariffs and cutting out the middleman markup (for reference Rokstoks are around $1100 currently and I’m sure they were ordered a long ways back).

 

[BBob]

Is this the same internals as the zero tech trace advanced?

He has stated multiple times that the internals are the latest greatest that LOW has to offer so not likely that they were used in that scope.

 

[prm]

I wouldn’t be against paying before they leave LOW. Not too unlike a drop ship. An added inspection in there somewhere if I understand correctly.

 

[littlebigtine]

Sorry to interrupt but could somebody post the all known specs for this scope? Picture of the reticle?

 

[Frozenlead]

Sorry to interrupt but could somebody post the all known specs for this scope? Picture of the reticle?

Check out the first post on this thread

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/s2h-scope-interest.438195/

 

[littlebigtine]

Check out the first post on this thread

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/s2h-scope-interest.438195/

Thanks

 

[8nbait]

Someone should make a sticky
3-18x44
FFP
12.5”
30mm tube
25 oz
Exposed low profile zero stop elevation turret
Capped windage
Push button center dot illumination
10 mil per rev
29 mil total travel
$999

 

[littlebigtine]

Someone should make a sticky
12.5”
30mm tube
25 oz
Exposed low profile zero stop elevation turret
Capped windage
Push button center dot illumination
10 mil per rev
29 mil total travel
$999
View attachment 1013784

Ooooo I like that reticle and the glass looks alot better that my swfa

 

[Speaks]

Yea I would happily pay full price for 2-3 when they first place the order to endure I get them. Deposit is fine but also happy to put up full cash as the number of scopes to meet demand is a lot to float.

 

[Str8shtr]

What's this "we" hivemind perspective? I would love for it to have been Vortex or even better Leupold. Their no-questions-asked-smash-your-scope-and-we'll-send-you-a-new-one-and-a-hat warranty is amazing. Maven also has this type of warranty. Given that LOW is the manufacturer, the only benefit of the retailer will be warranty once it hits production.

Vortex scopes don't hold zero, but most of their other stuff is completely serviceable. Same with Leupold. Seems like at least Vortex is starting to notice the ruggedization demand.

Does it ever cross anyone's mind that you're paying extra for the "amazing" warranty? Same as the extra protection you can purchase at stores for electronics, phones, etc. People love the warm fuzzy feeling they get from knowing something will be replaced if they break it. If it's something you can afford to fix/replace out of pocket, the extended warranties are generally not worth it. These are huge moneymakers or they wouldn't be offering them.

Give me a good product at a fair price that I won't need to send into to get fixed. Any reputable company will fix anything that has a manufacturing defect. Warranties are mainly a sales tactic. Maybe they used to be to back up a stellar product but now the MO seems to be to offer a mediocre product with an "amazing" warranty with enough markup to cover the warrantied items and a large profit margin because people rave about the amazing warranty and it sells products.

 

[Ice-kub]

Does it ever cross anyone's mind that you're paying extra for the "amazing" warranty? Same as the extra protection you can purchase at stores for electronics, phones, etc. People love the warm fuzzy feeling they get from knowing something will be replaced if they break it. If it's something you can afford to fix/replace out of pocket, the extended warranties are generally not worth it. These are huge moneymakers or they wouldn't be offering them.

Give me a good product at a fair price that I won't need to send into to get fixed. Any reputable company will fix anything that has a manufacturing defect. Warranties are mainly a sales tactic. Maybe they used to be to back up a stellar product but now the MO seems to be to offer a mediocre product with an "amazing" warranty with enough markup to cover the warrantied items and a large profit margin because people rave about the amazing warranty and it sells products.

I jokingly call them socialist rifle scopes, everyone pays for everyone's scopes haha

 

[alexnelon]

I jokingly call them socialist rifle scopes, everyone pays for everyone's scopes haha

$300 scope with a $300 value extended warranty for the low low price of $1,299

 

[Ice-kub]

$300 scope with a $300 value extended warranty for the low low price of $1,299

It's an investment haha, buy the one for 649, wait 5 years, send in for warranty and get the 1249 one as a replacement. Only piece of hunting/shooting equipment I've made money on haha

 

[Tcmo-33]

Does it ever cross anyone's mind that you're paying extra for the "amazing" warranty? Same as the extra protection you can purchase at stores for electronics, phones, etc. People love the warm fuzzy feeling they get from knowing something will be replaced if they break it. If it's something you can afford to fix/replace out of pocket, the extended warranties are generally not worth it. These are huge moneymakers or they wouldn't be offering them.

Give me a good product at a fair price that I won't need to send into to get fixed. Any reputable company will fix anything that has a manufacturing defect. Warranties are mainly a sales tactic. Maybe they used to be to back up a stellar product but now the MO seems to be to offer a mediocre product with an "amazing" warranty with enough markup to cover the warrantied items and a large profit margin because people rave about the amazing warranty and it sells products.

Agreed, people just love a company that sells a product with a lifetime warranty you can almost garentee they will have to use. The future is looking up when it comes to durable optics and I think it does have a lot to do with what goes on here. Thanks again to the guys who put this in play.

 

[BLJ]

FWIW, ZeroTech has a lifetime transferable unconditional warranty too.

Assuming this will apply to the S2H scope as well?

I understand that the ZeroTech info is new and hadn’t seen a mention of any warranty related info yet (may have missed it).

Also assuming that warranty will be handled through ZeroTech and not a vendor/distributor?