Would you buy this scope?

[benconfused]

There’s about to be two more SWFA scopes hitting the classifieds. It’s a cycle around here.

6x by chance?

 

[MuleyFever]

Try again - S2H podcast today talks about Scope details and ordering timelines (not actual ordering process). Confirmed it is ZT.

RS Lite was discussed as well.

Start at 14:40.

Thanks Form and Ryan for all your work on this.

Can you share the cliffsnotes on the timelines for the scope and stock?

 

[benconfused]

Can you share the cliffsnotes on the timelines for the scope and stock?

It's just what they've said here.

Whenever they open up orders it'll take 6 months to produce. LOW requires FULL payment before it leaves Japan from the buyer (would assume that's ZT > UM, but those details were not discussed). They don't want to make the same RS ordering mistakes.

After that 6 months, I believe Jake said 10 days to arrive in UM's hands on the US side.

All this is still is contingent on when the order is actually placed, any changes that are to be made to its final form, etc.

They will setup a pre-order (implying that is assuming for us Roksliders).

It's worth a listen to hear for yourself because it includes some of the (high level) story points Form called out this evening. LOW seemed to know exactly what to do to fix the side impact and overall design, and was very aware of the Drop test eval.

Scope will be available to touch at Hunt Expo.

RS Lite orders will open up first day of Hunt Expo (online) - same ordering process as regular RS.

 

[SaltyAquaholic]

Brother there have been 6 sold in the last 2 weeks on this website

Don’t really check the classifieds. I know that’s a big draw for a lot of people here but honestly unless I know the person, I can meet physically, or if I have no other choice I don’t really buy from classifieds like this. I come here mostly to learn a bit more about gear or find some new stuff to practice. I also don’t have an immediate need for the scope so it’s not something I’ve been looking for very seriously. Hence why I was considering jumping on board for a S2H that could potentially be here maybe July August time frame. But I’ll start paying attention more to it. Maybe. July is about when the relative need will become an immediate need. Although I’d prefer to have one by May time frame so I can have some real time behind the glass for this upcoming season.

 

[RancherJohn]

Don’t really check the classifieds. I know that’s a big draw for a lot of people here but honestly unless I know the person, I can meet physically, or if I have no other choice I don’t really buy from classifieds like this. I come here mostly to learn a bit more about gear or find some new stuff to practice. I also don’t have an immediate need for the scope so it’s not something I’ve been looking for very seriously. Hence why I was considering jumping on board for a S2H that could potentially be here maybe July August time frame. But I’ll start paying attention more to it. Maybe.

Not related to the S2H scope timeline, but @Ajsomp is in the group of folks I'd happily buy from again, and I even purchased from him based off a WTB ad I posted for a hard-to-find item. A quick perusal of a poster's history can give you an idea of the type of person you're dealing with.

There’s about to be two more SWFA scopes hitting the classifieds. It’s a cycle around here.

 

[prm]

Look forward to the back story, or what can be shared, on what the engineers already know about making durable scopes. I get the sense that if you ask for bombproof, they know exactly what elements need special attention.

 

[Speaks]

That's why I hate when the SWFA recommendation keeps getting repeated. It's unobtainum unless you camp out on the internet.

Hell, I almost qualify as a Rokslide camper and I've never seen one available. I'm dropping MOA ,so I need two scopes to bridge the gap to the S2H release. I'm not dropping Minox coin so yeah I'll keep an eye on classifieds. I plan on picking up a SFP Triji as well.

The 3-9s were in stock for months until they blew them out on black Friday. The 6x are the ones that only last days.

 

[Dobermann]

It is ZeroTech. The story is interesting.

And they were used to kill 10 deer today.

For the record team: I think this is the first official announcement in this thread who the partner company is.

(Someone thought I gave it away earlier; I didn't - I was just commenting on how there would be an international market for this scope.)

 

[IrkedCitizen]

At least it wasn't Vortex. Friends don't let friends buy Vortex

 

[Scottyboy]

Have to imagine the preorder link is coming soon

 

[benconfused]

At least it wasn't Vortex. Friends don't let friends buy Vortex

LOL, until everyone starts secretly buying the new Talon.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

LOL, until everyone starts secretly buying the new Talon.

Don't even know what that is. I don't pay attention to their products because I won't buy them

 

[Scottyboy]

LOL, until everyone starts secretly buying the new Talon.

Their RF binos I’d argue are different than rifle scopes. Especially when they lifetime warranty the electronics. But again, this is about the S2H scope we want and nothing to do with vortex or anyone else

 

[Frozenlead]

For the record team: I think this is the first official announcement in this thread who the partner company is.

(Someone thought I gave it away earlier; I didn't - I was just commenting on how there would be an international market for this scope.)

I think it’s a great partnership. Gives us Canadians some hope of seeing them up here.

Didn’t want to step on anyone’s toes, but since it’s public now.
Form unknowingly gave us a little teaser back on his 45 drop target.

 

[sneaky]

Look forward to the back story, or what can be shared, on what the engineers already know about making durable scopes. I get the sense that if you ask for bombproof, they know exactly what elements need special attention.

Considering that LOW builds all of the scopes that already pass the drop test I'd say they have a pretty good handle on it. Like the others, LOW builds what you want, you put your name on it. ZeroTech was already in with LOW, and made the magic happen.

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[nm.otter]

Considering that LOW builds all of the scopes that already pass the drop test

LOW builds most of them, and dominates the upper end of the list.

 

[Castle Rock]

Look forward to the back story, or what can be shared, on what the engineers already know about making durable scopes. I get the sense that if you ask for bombproof, they know exactly what elements need special attention.

I doubt that that will be forthcoming

 

[swavescatter]

What's this "we" hivemind perspective? I would love for it to have been Vortex or even better Leupold. Their no-questions-asked-smash-your-scope-and-we'll-send-you-a-new-one-and-a-hat warranty is amazing. Maven also has this type of warranty. Given that LOW is the manufacturer, the only benefit of the retailer will be warranty once it hits production.

Vortex scopes don't hold zero, but most of their other stuff is completely serviceable. Same with Leupold. Seems like at least Vortex is starting to notice the ruggedization demand.

 

[atmat]

What's this "we" hivemind perspective? I would love for it to have been Vortex or even better Leupold. Their no-questions-asked-smash-your-scope-and-we'll-send-you-a-new-one-and-a-hat warranty is amazing. Maven also has this type of warranty. Given that LOW is the manufacturer, the only benefit of the retailer will be warranty once it hits production.

Vortex scopes don't hold zero, but most of their other stuff is completely serviceable. Same with Leupold. Seems like at least Vortex is starting to notice the ruggedization demand.

FWIW, ZeroTech has a lifetime transferable unconditional warranty too.

 

[letrbuck]

@Ryan Avery @Formidilosus

Thanks for taking on this project and getting these scopes to reality. I know folks took the idea on this thread and ran with it, but some sort of pre order does make sense after listening to the latest podcast. And given the timeline, I wouldn't balk too much at paying full price for the scope when the LOW contract needs to be paid in order for them to leave Japan and waiting 12 to 15 days to have it in hand.