Would you buy this scope?

[Stocky]

I just looked it up - yeah, I'd be willing to try that one, for sure.

I have no idea how well Burris Veracity scopes hold up to use/abuse. I've read tons of good reviews of them from people who hunt with them but don't recall a drop test. Put them in the 'I want to like it' category for now.

ETA: Well, crap, no, it is only available on the Veracity PH series, not the regular Veracity. Meh. Not terribly interested in the PH.

Its in the normal veracity in the 2-12

 

[BAKPAKR]

If you have noticed, Form and I don't really care if the masses want it; if we want it, there are enough other people who will want it.

The scopes will be 3-18x44 sub 25oz and DURABLE. The reticle will be a hunting reticle, not a tacdafag reticle—low profile turrets with an elevation turret that stays put with a price tag that won't break the bank. The Maven has come the closest, but IMO, no scope has put this all together yet.

Oops, I didn’t do my research before asking about the weight. So, disregard my question. With the features I have seen in the photos posted, this should be a heck of a scope at less than 25 oz.

 

[Mountainrancher]

That M on the parallax won’t stop me because I can’t read.

 

[RockAndSage]

It’s not. I used a graph board at 100 yards and tried to measure what the reticle dimensions were for most of it, as a true diagram for the THLR wasn’t available- while talking in the phone with the engineer, and guesstimating how much to change the THLR to make it correct for a 3-18x scope. Haha.

Damn, that's awesome. This thing just gets more and more interesting. Just so I understand...it sounds like you kinda trued it up a bit for 3-18 magnification and field-usage?

 

[huntnful]

It’s not. I used a graph board at 100 yards and tried to measure what the reticle dimensions were for most of it, as a true diagram for the THLR wasn’t available- while talking in the phone with the engineer, and guesstimating how much to change the THLR to make it correct for a 3-18x scope. Haha.

FWIW I looked everywhere for the original thickness measurements of the THLR before I even asked. I couldn’t find them. Scope looks great. Looking forward to the testing

 

[Formidilosus]

I think this is an excellent idea.

I've not been bothered by the 0.1 mil marks on the uber-tall SWFA turrets, but on a low profile turret they're awfully close to the numbers. If you don't actually get rid of them, please consider shortening them (perhaps to the point of being dots).

I asked a bunch of people about that- the idea was a turnoff to all of them. In hand the turret lettering is very obvious.

 

[RockAndSage]

FWIW I looked everywhere for the original thickness measurements of the THLR before I even asked. I couldn’t find them. Scope looks great. Looking forward to the testing

@Dobermann , you have these handy?

 

[Formidilosus]

Damn, that's awesome. This thing just gets more and more interesting. Just so I understand...it sounds like you kinda trued it up a bit for 3-18 magnification and field-usage?

Correct.

 

[nm.otter]

I asked a bunch of people about that- the idea was a turnoff to all of them. In hand the turret lettering is very obvious.

Any thoughts about shorter marks (or dots)?

 

[Formidilosus]

I am trying to be as clinical as I can be here…

But this scope was on a table at an event with 20’ish other high end new scopes. No one knew anything about it, and weren’t told anything- and was by far the most re-picked up, and commented on scope there. It was actually comical. Every person picked it as the most impressive/interesting scope at the event.

The design (without shooting yet) is bad ass.

 

[Formidilosus]

Any thoughts about shorter marks (or dots)?

It can be looked at, I guess I’m not seeing the issue. It is obvious in hand. One of the requirements was for @mtnwrunner blind azz to be able to see the turrets marking from across the room. I’m pretty sure it does that.

 

[Stocky]

I don't get it isn't mils metric why wouldnt the parallax be in M. The only only option that makes sense would be to measure it in size 9 Crocs being thats Ryan's preferred metric.

 

[Dobermann]

@Dobermann , you have these handy?

Minox's marked-up reticle is in the ZP 5 Q&A thread.

@huntnful

 

[nm.otter]

I guess I’m not seeing the issue. It is obvious in hand. One of the requirements was for @mtnwrunner blind azz to be able to see the turrets marking from across the room. I’m pretty sure it does that.

I can see across the room just fine (and read street signs at 200+ yards).

It's generally close vision that deteriorates with age, so a turret (or a level) at 12" blurs for a lot of us. Find some over 50 types who don't wear glasses except for reading or close work and see what they see.

 

[RockAndSage]

Minox's marked-up reticle is in the ZP 5 Q&A thread.

@huntnful

Found it: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/page-4#post-2480142

 

[Dobermann]

ya caught us we want to make sure the larpers would buy it.

Or there could be several legitimate answers with a PROTOTYPE. Or where else it’s being sold…

Like ... to the rest of the world outside of the 'imperial system' US.

This thing is going to go gangbusters in Australia and NZ.

 

[huntnful]

Found it: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/page-4#post-2480142

Very nice! Thank you!

 

[Formidilosus]

I can see across the room just fine (and read street signs at 200+ yards).

It's generally close vision that deteriorates with age, so a turret (or a level) at 12" blurs for a lot of us. Find some over 50 types who don't wear glasses except for reading or close work and see what they see.

So how does getting rid of marks help you? If you can’t see them, you have to count no matter what between whole mils.

 

[Dobermann]

Measuring pixels on the photo of the 18x reticle posted on page 115 would indicate that the center dot is 0.2mrads.

Can we start a 'Next Level Rokslide Nerd Award'?

Respect.

Although will be interesting to see whether the combination of photo + pixels measures up ...

[Edited to add ... I hadn't seen that Form has already posted the measurement. @Chris in TN: want to get your nerd on even more and do the conversion??]

 

[Dobermann]

Maybe not adjusting it, but is there a difference if it is fixed at 100 vs 50? Most scopes that are "rimfire" 50, while most centerfire seem to be 100.

Not in the rimfire competition world.

50 metres is considered too much - even 20 is considered a hinderance. 10 m is where it's at.