Would you buy this scope?

[Ralphie]

How is responding to the question, that is the very title of this thread, negative?

It’s cool if a new good scope comes on the market. Would it be as cool as a 20 oz 3-12? Imo no. The question was asked and it was assumed they wanted answers.

 

[Fowl Play]

@Formidilosus is to damn nice to you guys…

I mean… you started a thread to drum up interest in the scope. You could have just been quiet for 2 years and brought it to market. I figured this thread with breadcrumbs along the way is meeting its original intention?

Honestly surprised you guys started a thread after vowing to never do it again in the RokStok thread. I am always hesitant to show anyone unnecessary in the design, the design, until it’s finished. Just a pain in the ass and heartache. But you guys know this and brought it on again anyway.

 

[N2TRKYS]

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If that’s what they settled on, then that’s unfortunate. Maybe it has changed like other original wants have.

 

[T_Widdy]

If that’s what they settled on, then that’s unfortunate. Maybe it has changed like other original wants have.

Why would that reticle be unfortunate?

 

[Ryan Avery]

I mean… you started a thread to drum up interest in the scope. You could have just been quiet for 2 years and brought it to market. I figured this thread with breadcrumbs along the way is meeting its original intention?

Honestly surprised you guys started a thread after vowing to never do it again in the RokStok thread. I am always hesitant to show anyone unnecessary in the design, the design, until it’s finished. Just a pain in the ass and heartache. But you guys know this and brought it on again anyway.

Maybe…Are you going to buy one?

 

[N2TRKYS]

Why would that reticle be unfortunate?

I don’t like it.

 

[atmat]

Why would that reticle be unfortunate?

He has weird views on scopes. Hates the RS1.2 SHR-mil and wants 50x zoom.

 

[Ryan Avery]

The reticle is the linchpin to this project!


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[Fowl Play]

Maybe…Are you going to buy one?

Post the reticle and we’ll see

As you know, if you do. Half of us will love it, half will hate it.

Half of the people that loved it, will never actually buy the scope. Half of those that “hated it”, will actually wind up buying it anyway…

For those curious putting the link to the THLR info here. Post #8 https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/minox-zp5-5-25x56mm-thlr-field-evaluation.253283/

I knew Form had written allot about it, but never actually spent the time reading it (as it was in a scope I’d never actually use for hunting).

For what it’s worth, I probably would buy a “simplified THLR” without the milling/ranging scale and a bunch of the other clutter.

 

[atmat]

The reticle is the linchpin to this project!


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I will buy the heck outta this scope

 

[RockAndSage]

The reticle is the linchpin to this project!


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All - if you've never heard of this reticle, and don't understand it or like it and aren't some sort of reticle nerd, there's a couple of things to know:

1) The original was designed by Thomas Hauglands, as his Long Range reticle - hence, THLR. He's a member here, out of Scandinavia somewhere, and is a very active hunter.

2) It's not meant to be a tacticool supersniper reticle - it's meant, as I understand it, to be the quickest and most usable reticle for hunting from short to extended ranges, in the widest variety of conditions.

3) The original has features for ranging and wind holds that are more on the advanced side, as I understand it, with this one Ryan posted here being the simplified version of that. Making it more optimized for more common hunting conditions.

4) The reticle is, apparently, exceptionally good in getting you on target in very low-light conditions, owing to the way the thick outer posts and the box/dot in the center draw the eye and give reference.

I'm probably missing a couple of the finer points here, but that's the broad takeaways I've picked up across several threads. As of right now, to my knowledge, the only other scope out there with the THLR reticle is the $3000 Minox ZP5, and it's quite a hog of an optic, as cool as it is. The one the guys are having developed seems to be a far more balanced and optimized hunting scope, at half the price.

 

[Fowl Play]

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If you guys want to get really clever. Maybe give some thought to the design of the “wind brackets” if you choose to keep them.

If I’m being honest the current wind brackets are not as useful as they possibly could be. If designed around a “standard” say 500 yards and a 5 or 6 mph gun — maybe it would be more intuitive, but I haven’t drawn up what that would actually look like. And all this could be hogwash. A standard pattern of hash marks is probably more universally useful.

Edit: this would literally just be a hash mark at .5, 1, and 1.5 which the maven has.

 

[nm.otter]

The original was designed by Thomas Haugland, as his Long Range reticle - hence, THLR. He's a member here, out of Scandinavia somewhere, and is a very active hunter.

These are all quite short, but the rationale is in there https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVQyfTUUezJjsVBhvmBZSQFrNN42PGvB6

 

[JohnB]

I will buy the heck outta this scope

We know.

 

[N2TRKYS]

He has weird views on scopes. Hates the RS1.2 SHR-mil and wants 50x zoom.

Wanting a crosshair to actually cross is not a weird view. Don’t know that I’ve ever said that I wanted a 50x zoom. But hey, it’s your lie.

 

[fwafwow]

Wanting a crosshair to actually cross is not a weird view. Don’t know that I’ve ever said that I wanted a 50x zoom. But hey, it’s your lie.

Honest question - is the above reticle not good for you because at the center there is a tiny dot but not crosshairs that extend out from that center? I spent some time looking at it and - to me - it's sort of like crosshairs that intersect, except that instead of solid lines, the crosshairs are dotted lines, and my eye is drawn to that center in a very similar way to crossing crosshairs.

 

[HuntHarder]

Anyone know what the purpose of the box is in the reticle?

 

[waspocrew]

Anyone know what the purpose of the box is in the reticle?

Probably to center your eye? No clue though.

What are the subtensions? Seems like a bit going on with that reticle.

 

[atmat]

We know.

I’m in an abusive relationship.

 

[prm]

The reticle is the linchpin to this project!


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Could make that work for anything I need. Still a cool undertaking and I look forward to what comes of it.