Worth upgrading from zermatt?

[Joshuajosh]

I’m currently using an origin action and have been for a couple years, I have a 300wsm proof barrel and a smokeless muzzleloader barrel for it, it has never given me any issues but I have always wondered what I am missing out on by not trying out something like the sr3, impact nbk, or just a higher end action, curious what those of you that have used these origin and some higher end actions think

 

[vonb]

You’ll gain nothing. Coming from someone that has Origin, Defiance, Borden and Surgeon. Want is a different story.

 

[FLShooter293]

I have an Origin and a TL3. No difference other than bottom metal. I’m currently building a 300 WSM on a medium Origin. Buy another Origin and build another rifle!

 

[SloppyJ]

Good to hear. I have a long and short origin. Going to pick up a medium one to round it out and another short for a match gun.

I got my last one from NSS and went with their beads lasted finish. It looks great but my dlc or nitrided long action is just a touch smoother. I have no real complaints from them.

My long action doesn't feed the greatest with 3.8" 300prc rounds and a UM metal and mag. I can't slowly chamber one but if I do it quickly it's just fine. As I keep tweaking it, it's getting better.

 

[hereinaz]

Zermat is one of the best. Origin in their “budget” action, but it’s still better than most any factory.

 

[waspocrew]

Origin is a great action. You'll really don't "gain" much by going with a TL3, SR3, etc. besides an integrated lug. I have a couple TL3s and enjoy them, but if I build another (read: when I build another), I'll probably save a little $$ and just go with an Origin.

One action I really like is my Terminus Zeus. That thing is super slick and the 60* bolt throw is incredible. Barrel changes with the QC tenon take a minute or two to accomplish.

 

[khuber84]

I have or have owned Impact, Zermatt, ARC, Terminus, Lone Peak, AI, Bat, Kelbly and Tikka actions.

Some have advantages in certain situations, some have crf, some push feed, but at the end the day......

They're mostly equals, however I would say that Bat may have a small upperhand. I do love my Vesper and Bumblebee action. Now that they've gone to 75° is just a lil bonus.

If CRF is a necessity, I believe ARC actions like the nucleus and Archimedes hold pressure a bit better than an Zermatt. We shouldn't be running on that edge of pressure regardless.

 

[SloppyJ]

I have or have owned Impact, Zermatt, ARC, Terminus, Lone Peak, AI, Bat, Kelbly and Tikka actions.

Some have advantages in certain situations, some have crf, some push feed, but at the end the day......

They're mostly equals, however I would say that Bat may have a small upperhand. I do love my Vesper and Bumblebee action. Now that they've gone to 75° is just a lil bonus.

If CRF is a necessity, I believe ARC actions like the nucleus and Archimedes hold pressure a bit better than an Zermatt. We shouldn't be running on that edge of pressure regardless.

I guess I'm bougie enough that I just appreciate the CRF style that zermatt uses at the range. Controlling the ejection with the bolt speed is nice for throwing brass back in my hand. It does make me feel just a bit better that the round is more locked in too with feeding and extraction.

All that to say, my favorite production design is a M70. I broke the mold as a younger guy who appreciates that older stuff.

 

[eoperator]

Controlling the ejection with the bolt speed is nice for throwing brass back in my hand.

Manual ejector is something I wish was more common.

 

[XLR]

You will find some gems with almost any manufacturer. I have a buddy with an origin that will run with any other action but I have seen others that dont run great. Most impacts and lone peaks are very smooth though and thats why they have a great reputation.

 

[schwint11]

I’ve ran quite a few of the high end actions and i feel like I’m always using the zermatt as the standard to compare it to. Honestly at the end of the day the zermatt is pretty hard to beat. Tons of prefits for them and all the different bolt heads. I do t think you are missing much honestly

 

[UnckleBob]

I have two Origins and there is only one change I would make.

wish it was possible to lock the bolt closed on safe.

 

[StupidLightweight]

I have two Origins and there is only one change I would make.

wish it was possible to lock the bolt closed on safe.

Agreed. That’s my only critique on my TL3. Superb action.

 

[huntsd]

I have two Origins and there is only one change I would make.

wish it was possible to lock the bolt closed on safe.

so the gun wont fire but the bolt will open while on safe?

 

[SloppyJ]

so the gun wont fire but the bolt will open while on safe?

Standard Rem 700 "feature". I prefer the 3 way safety like on model 70s but thats just me. I havent researched it but I'd imagine all of the clones are the same with the ability to open the bolt on safe.

 

[UnckleBob]

so the gun wont fire but the bolt will open while on safe?

Most Remington footprint rifles will be able to use off the shelf Remington compatible triggers like Timney and Triggertech offer. The Remington style trigger is a two position safety.