Will a 22LR turn a dog?

[Hnthrdr]

Bear spray will not work on a determined canine,I know as we raise these and not one would stop attacking when ordered even with spra

Ah good ole fur missiles… those things are terrifying

 

[Jimmy]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but if my dog was so untrained it was running animals on someone else's land I would understand if it got shot. I wouldn't like it, but I would understand.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Bear spray will not work on a determined canine,I know as we raise these and not one would stop attacking when ordered even with spray.

Cool story

Do you have any reason to suspect fully trained malagator attack dogs to be chasing deer on there own and then randomly attack unsuspecting bystanders?

 

[atmat]

Bear spray will not work on a determined canine,I know as we raise these and not one would stop attacking when ordered even with spray.

In fairness, dogs trained to attack are different than farm dogs chasing deer who may happen to get aggressive with a stranger.

Most grizzly attacks are turned away simply by being hit with a bullet. I would imagine that a dog would be no different.

My only concern (as others have stated) would be whether the ammo feeds reliably in the firearm.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but if my dog was so untrained it was running animals on someone else's land I would understand if it got shot. I wouldn't like it, but I would understand.

I dont know of one that wouldnt get shot for that out here. Thinkin this is an west/ east thing though.

 

[Jimmy]

I dont know of one that wouldnt get shot for that out here. Thinkin this is an west/ east thing though.

Yeah maybe it is east/west thing

 

[*zap*]

Good long dagger/knife is a great deterant.
Think Rambo.

 

[Sccritterkiller]

My apologies for not being clear.

Would a 22LR pistol (3.5” barrel) shooting a 38 grain HP be able to kill a dog in a defense situation?
Or (worst case scenario) at least change its mind/direction?

Not relying on the noise to scare them.
Them chasing the deer is just how they ended up close to me. That kinda is what it is.

Thanks.

I use a 22 pistol to dispatch yotes in foothold traps...between the eyes or ear hole will do the job.

 

[doc holiday13]

Yes, it will work. Wouldn't be my first choice, just because I'm hesitant to consider any 22 ammo completely reliable, but far better than nothing.

Second the bear spray recommendation.

High quality 22lr ammo is really reliable actually. of the thousands of 22lr i've shot only had an issue with 2-3 rounds. One of those rounds was in a concealed carry pistol that I cleaned and overlubed. the oil seeped down into the magazine and the gunpowder soaked it up and wouldn't ignite. It was not sealed. CCI Stinger and CCI standard have proven to have the highest reliability in my Sig Mosquito

 

[BLJ]

Betting the guy running the dog is also armed. Popping one from a tree stand is a great way to start a situation that may escalate out of hand fast.

Not the scenario at all as I’ve already said.

Stated earlier that this would be for a self defense situation in the woods with an aggressive dog.

 

[BLJ]

My only concern (as others have stated) would be whether the ammo feeds reliably in the firearm.

Agree.

I’m over 2k with this pistol/ammo combo.
I feel very comfortable with it for the circumstances mentioned.

 

[Steve300xcw]

So drag it along. That 22lr you bring is going to work so much better than the 45 you have back at the house

 

[Rich M]

A .22 will work if that's what you got and are comfortable with. Something is better than nothing.

A warning shot is good - maybe the noise will scare it off. If not, then you can truthfully say I didn't want to shoot and fired a warning shot to try and scare it away.

First thing after an encounter is to call animal control or local LEO. Dog owners can be irrational at times.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Situation like that. I'm not calling anybody. The issue was handled, and the less people involved the better IMO

 

[*zap*]

In an actual dog attack the dog generally comes hard/fast. Depending on the situation the dog may bite your lower body before you can respond. A big dog that has a hold on your lower body will move you around. Good luck shooting that dog and not yourself. You better be physically and emotionally qualified to handle that situation.

 

[Sccritterkiller]

Situation like that. I'm not calling anybody. The issue was handled, and the less people involved the better IMO

Unless it has a GPS collar....

 

[Sccritterkiller]

First thing after an encounter is to call animal control or local LEO. Dog owners can be irrational at titimes

This..most states I hunt its illegal to kill hunting dogs unless they are damaging property aka livestock, or life even on your own property.
I deal with this pretty regular with bear hounds that come off the NF onto my property..absolutely nothing I can do about it.
Had the pleasure of being woke up at 6:50 by 18ish dogs running a bear thru my yard, 10 feet off my porch, a few weeks ago.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Unless it has a GPS collar....

That changes nothing IMO

 

[Hnthrdr]

Was an interesting story a year or two ago where a younger guy in the vail valley in Co shot and killed a dog that was chasing deer on his family’s land, ( dog owner had trespassed and had dog off leash) the hunter was exonerated, kind of surprised me considering how the state and that county is these days, bet it surprised the heck out of the owner I’m sure

 

[7mm-08]

From a tragic and incredibly sad personal experience, I can tell you that one pellet of birdshot (7 1/2 shot size) from about 35 yards can kill a healthy, in-shape female Germain wirehaired pointer weighing about 45 pounds. In my case, the pellet penetrated her thoracic cavity between two ribs and she was in clear distress immediately. The lungs of a canid (like ours) are negative-pressure organs and operate in conjunction with the diaphragm in a systemic fashion to intake air. Once this pressure differential is compromised and air can enter the lungs (think sucking chest wound in a human), a dog will die without immediate intervention. Unlike humans, who can live with one lung functioning, dogs are not anatomically blessed with a membrane which separates the lungs from each other and they succumb to pneumothoraces in pretty short order.

Short answer to your question is (if you shoot a dog in the chest) - "yes." I expect a head shot with the caliber and round you cited would kill a dog as well.