Why suppressors?

[Miflatlander91]

1 shot at every animal over the course of the year for some adds up pretty quick to about how much some guys shoot a rifle all year


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[Taco John]

I am an avid enthusiast of tools that go bang and boom. I have a couple I’ve made that run flawless with subsonic. Mostly 9mm cqb sorts. That is why is own the silencerco 46m.

But in. 300wm or 270, im not shooting sub sonics.
Besides maybe quieting down the sound of a slug being cut loose, what’s the point, your not silent like you are with with a sub sonic round.

This is not a post to stir debate or argue,
I’ve contemplated taking my 9mm suppressed sbr with sub rounds hunting for the close doe that walks within 25 yards so I can continue to hunt the bucks and bigger deer, but even with a can on my 300wm, the woods will awaken.

A big .30 with 180gr bullets going fast has some recoil.

Suppressors suck a lot of recoil out of the equation.


The noise reduction is secondary, and over rated.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

Like my incel nephew who never leaves the basement always says, once you go Black-Ops inspired kit, you never go back

What is "black-ops inspired kit"?

 

[StupidLightweight]

Suppressors suck a lot of recoil out of the equation.
The noise reduction is secondary, and over rated.

I agree about recoil reduction, but the rest of this has me confused. You feel that suppressing noise isn’t the primary goal of suppressors?

 

[HandgunHTR]

What is "black-ops inspired kit"?

Don’t feed the trolls.

 

[LeftyWilbury]

another vote(s) for a) because it helps save what's left of my hearing and b) when hunting with a suppressor animals spook less and c) they're rad and i wanna look kool

case in point, dozen lopes coming towards my buddy and i. i take three suppressed shots to get my doe on the ground (don't judge! ok, go ahead and judge, those fuckers move fast). the other 11 antelope patiently mill about wondering what the heck is going on. my buddy takes his buck with an unsuppressed 300 WM. BOOM. pandemonium ensues. one buck and one doe on the ground, 10 other antelope running for the canadian border.

 

[JGRaider]

Small cans do not suppress as well as the bigger ones. Just the way it works. Match your suppressor to the cartridge you're shooting and there's no reason you won't love it.

 

[rookieforever33]

Im in one of the few states that doesn't allow ownership of suppressors. It kills me when people that can have them dont. Its like a 17 year old without a drivers license. You might think your life is fine without one, but everyone knows it could be better. Animals are too unpredictable to tell if the muzzle blast will spook them or not. Ive seen them run from a twig snap and stand there when I shot another with a 12 gauge. But 1) recoil mitigation, 2) hearing what happens after the shot, 3) protecting an important link between myself and the world around me. = no brainer.

 

[K9kodi]

I really appreciate the feedback. The brake on my Christensen is beautiful and I hesitate to take it off.
I also bought the risgeline bc of the weight, then add a full length hybrid 46m and, just basing off thought process vs yalls experience, the swing on that rifle in the woods would seem painful vs without. I’ll give it a go with correct front piece and see how she does.

To make jest on an unfortunate circumstance I should try to avoid, pops had a good battle the cancers a couple years ago. The amount of chemo and full body radiation he experienced made the spinning glass plate in my microwave jealous.
After his release from the hospital his hearing was immediately reduced, to the point he absolutely needed hearing aids. Causation or correlation, I dunno, but the amount of times he doesn’t wear his hearing aids now I can only imagine he enjoys not hearing all the bickering (it’s a joke, mostly).

I appreciate everyone’s input. I will def give it a go and see how it goes. The weight of the rifle is why I got it, but then I can also say I got a super light rifle in order to put a can on it. My hikes aren’t far, weight lifting heavy daily is a hobby so the weight of the rifle isn’t a huge set back if it’s a little heavier, I was more opposed when it came to the sudden shoot ability in areas with lucky shots vs wide open canyons. I’m a Va mountain deer hunter, not an out west mountain plains guy yet.

One last question, how will the carbon fiber barrel handle the weight of the csn vs a steel?

 

[Shortschaf]

One last question, how will the carbon fiber barrel handle the weight of the csn vs a steel?

Absolutely fine
There will be a slightly different zero with the can on regardless of barrel type. Will probably be an inch lower

 

[Hoopleheader]

What is "black-ops inspired kit"?

I am referring (as a joke) to the proliferation/ domination of tactical-ish gear/guns etc into the industry following the popularity of the Call of Duty video game series in the late 2000s, specifically referencing the “Black Ops” sub brand.

Some (a lot) of people buy stuff to look cool.

Suppressors are useful. I bought a short barreled .308 with the intent of screwing on a can and shooting 130gr TTSX at high enough velocity to do the job. The hearing protection benefit is there, although saving my ears will come from figuring out a solution for banging a box of shells at a time during grouse/woodcock season.

I do get a kick out of seeing guys at my local range run their suppressed AR and then run another with a brake that deafens everybody so they can tame the overwhelming recoil of their 62 gr .223s while shooting at 50 yards.

I’ll take folks running cans over people running brakes any day.

 

[Floridave]

I'm new to suppressors and have to say, after trying mine on ar15's in 5.56 and 6.5 grendel, I'm pretty underwhelmed. They are still too loud for me to shoot comfortably without hearing protection.
Maybe I'm more sensitive than others, and because of that I've always used earpro even from early days (61 years old now). A lifetime of shooting, riding and racing motorcycles and flying planes and my hearing is still fine, but I wear protection for all those activities. Lots of loud music, but apparently not enough to be a problem.
Anyway, I'm missing something because while my AB Suppressors A-10 does make some difference, it's not the huge difference so many seem to feel is there, certainly not enough that I'll be shooting without ear protection. I'm on the fence about getting bolt rifles threaded because I'm not convinced it's worth the weight and increased length or reduced velocity if I cut the barrel.
My primary use for it is on the 6.5 grendel for night hog hunting with multiple targets. At this point, that likely will be my only use for it. I do notice zero flash with the suppressor which is great.( I run no muzzle device on any of my rifles, except now this suppressor nor do I shoot big magnums or braked rifles. One or two shots with a braked rifle and I knew I'd never own one of those.) I do shoot big bore revolvers pretty much every week, (with ear protection of course) so I wonder if I'm just used to the blast and the unsuppressed rifles just aren't a big deal that I think about when I'm shooting.

 

[Robobiss]

I'm new to suppressors and have to say, after trying mine on ar15's in 5.56 and 6.5 grendel, I'm pretty underwhelmed. They are still too loud for me to shoot comfortably without hearing protection.
Maybe I'm more sensitive than others, and because of that I've always used earpro even from early days (61 years old now). A lifetime of shooting, riding and racing motorcycles and flying planes and my hearing is still fine, but I wear protection for all those activities. Lots of loud music, but apparently not enough to be a problem.
Anyway, I'm missing something because while my AB Suppressors A-10 does make some difference, it's not the huge difference so many seem to feel is there, certainly not enough that I'll be shooting without ear protection. I'm on the fence about getting bolt rifles threaded because I'm not convinced it's worth the weight and increased length or reduced velocity if I cut the barrel.
My primary use for it is on the 6.5 grendel for night hog hunting with multiple targets. At this point, that likely will be my only use for it. I do notice zero flash with the suppressor which is great.( I run no muzzle device on any of my rifles, except now this suppressor.)

Gas guns do not suppress nearly as well as bolt guns. The bolt moving fast both forward and backwards is stupid loud, and the gas that is escaping from the ejection port once the bolt moves away from the gas tube isn’t quiet, either.

AR’s need to be tuned a lot to get the full benefits of suppression, and even then they suck compared to bolt guns.

I shoot all of my AR’s suppressed because no matter what it is better than unsuppressed, but it’s not nearly the level of performance from any bolt gun. I would thread a bolt gun and try it if I were you, to me, I think it’s a huge benefit.

 

[mt100gr.]

I'm new to suppressors and have to say, after trying mine on ar15's in 5.56 and 6.5 grendel, I'm pretty underwhelmed. They are still too loud for me to shoot comfortably without hearing protection.
Maybe I'm more sensitive than others, and because of that I've always used earpro even from early days (61 years old now). A lifetime of shooting, riding and racing motorcycles and flying planes and my hearing is still fine, but I wear protection for all those activities. Lots of loud music, but apparently not enough to be a problem.
Anyway, I'm missing something because while my AB Suppressors A-10 does make some difference, it's not the huge difference so many seem to feel is there, certainly not enough that I'll be shooting without ear protection. I'm on the fence about getting bolt rifles threaded because I'm not convinced it's worth the weight and increased length or reduced velocity if I cut the barrel.
My primary use for it is on the 6.5 grendel for night hog hunting with multiple targets. At this point, that likely will be my only use for it. I do notice zero flash with the suppressor which is great.( I run no muzzle device on any of my rifles, except now this suppressor.)

ARs are just loud to run with the gas systems and moving metal. If you tried that AB can on a bolt gun in 5.56 or 6.5G I think you be grinning.

At night with my AR, I still keep an ear plug in my left ear. Sometimes put both in if I am set up and have time.

 

[Floridave]

Hmm. Well that's good to know and kind of explains things. Thanks!

 

[Marshfly]

I really appreciate the feedback. The brake on my Christensen is beautiful and I hesitate to take it off.
I also bought the risgeline bc of the weight, then add a full length hybrid 46m and, just basing off thought process vs yalls experience, the swing on that rifle in the woods would seem painful vs without. I’ll give it a go with correct front piece and see how she does.


One last question, how will the carbon fiber barrel handle the weight of the csn vs a steel?

Your barrel is steel with a carbon wrap. It's a steel pencil barrel underneath the pretty carbon. It will hold it fine.

That said the best rifles for cans have short barrels. The light titanium cans weigh very close to the same as the equivalent length of the shorter barrel. If you cut the barrel, there is very little weight difference.

And I know you can't cut your carbon barrel, but now you know for your next rifle purchase.

 

[K9kodi]

Awesome info guys thanks.

 

[alecvg]

For me it’s so my son doesn’t have the same hearing problems I already have at 30 when he is my age.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I am to the point I won’t hunt with someone who doesn’t use a suppressor. Even wearing ear protection being next to a shooter with an AR, my tinnitus has not recovered. Not worth it. Either get a can on the gun or I am not going hunting.

I won’t even talk to people at a party if they don’t own a suppressor.

 

[Hoopleheader]

I won’t even talk to people at a party if they don’t own a suppressor.

Funny