Why Match/Target Bullets For Hunting

[Conrad]

You ga e detail to jacket thickness on ELDX vs ELDM. They are both tipped bullets….

I was just curious if you had sectioned a bullet like a 130 “OTM” as Berger markets/calls it vs an elite hunter bullet. I realize they are both open tipped. I have not shot anything with Elite Hunters so I was curious if they open a little faster than some of Berger’s other bullets.

 

[Formidilosus]

You ga e detail to jacket thickness on ELDX vs ELDM. They are both tipped bullets….

I was just curious if you had sectioned a bullet like a 130 “OTM” as Berger markets/calls it vs an elite hunter bullet. I realize they are both open tipped. I have not shot anything with Elite Hunters so I was curious if they open a little faster than some of Berger’s other bullets.

Yes they do. I’m almost positive your questions have been discussed in this thread.

 

[Conrad]

I’m sure they have just jumped onto the post regarding nuances and figured I’d ask. Thanks.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

Guys that like to shoot the Berger’s on Rokslide very often run a fine wire bit in the nose to improve consistency and eliminate any foreign material. This is an extra step that is avoidable with a tipped bullet like the ELDS and TMKS.

 

[Natebonebusta]

@Formidilosus convinced me to go to the 130 TMK’s for the 6.5 Creedmoor after doing some reading here. After listening to podcast 35 at least 6 times it has made me reconsider how I approach looking for a hunting bullet. Heck, I can load those 130’s in my 6.5 Grendel, and as long as I keep it above 1800fps I still get the same results!

 

[deltadukman]

Well I guess my reading comprehension sucks. I was under the impression that the overwhelming majority of people on this forum preferred the 147 eld-m vs. the 143 eld-x in the 6.5's.

 

[Castle Rock]

They did last week

 

[Castle Rock]

I prefer the 130 because it shoots flatter and opens up faster

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Well I guess my reading comprehension sucks. I was under the impression that the overwhelming majority of people on this forum preferred the 147 eld-m vs. the 143 eld-x in the 6.5's.

the 6.5 kill thread definitely seems to have more kills with the 147 than the 143.

 

[wind gypsy]

You ga e detail to jacket thickness on ELDX vs ELDM. They are both tipped bullets….

I was just curious if you had sectioned a bullet like a 130 “OTM” as Berger markets/calls it vs an elite hunter bullet. I realize they are both open tipped. I have not shot anything with Elite Hunters so I was curious if they open a little faster than some of Berger’s other bullets.

Berger used to not have seperate match and hunting vld lines. They eventually created the "target" line with slightly thicker jackets largely because fast twist rates, long barrels, and high barrel temps were resulting in jacket failure in match applications.

The "OTM" line seems seems more created such that it can be used in military applications, associated magazine and barrel twist constraints, and I'm not sure Jacket thickness is more aligned with hunting or match lines but likely more towards match.

 

[Chode223]

Berger used to not have seperate match and hunting vld lines. They eventually created the "target" line with slightly thicker jackets largely because fast twist rates, long barrels, and high barrel temps were resulting in jacket failure in match applications.

The "OTM" line seems seems more created such that it can be used in military applications, associated magazine and barrel twist constraints, and I'm not sure Jacket thickness is more aligned with hunting or match lines but likely more towards match.

Pardon my ignorance, but I’m still a bit confused as to why the folks who know tend to prefer the tipped bullets vs the OTM / Berger style.

You would think that the 3-6” of neck / penetration before disruption would be ideal given the concerns and reports of some of these bullets ‘blowing up’ on shoulders or bone.

Is that right? Or is it simply that the ‘blowing up’ thing is a bit of an urban legend or outlier?

My 6.5 cm really likes the Berger elite hunter 140, but does great with factory eld too. Trying to figure out which direction to go this fall.

 

[Marbles]

Pardon my ignorance, but I’m still a bit confused as to why the folks who know tend to prefer the tipped bullets vs the OTM / Berger style.

You would think that the 3-6” of neck / penetration before disruption would be ideal given the concerns and reports of some of these bullets ‘blowing up’ on shoulders or bone.

Is that right? Or is it simply that the ‘blowing up’ thing is a bit of an urban legend or outlier?

My 6.5 cm really likes the Berger elite hunter 140, but does great with factory eld too. Trying to figure out which direction to go this fall.

The "blowing up" on bone simply doesn't happen.