Why Haven’t All Of The CA and Transplants From Other States That Moved To WY,MT,ID Stayed After Many Winters And Not Moved Back?

[Beendare]

Fwiw, I know a dozen families that have moved out of California to Idaho, Montana, and Tennessee. All are solid Conservatives that hate the hypocrite Dem politicians running CA.

None have come back….which is not good for those of us that stay and fight Newsom the presidential front runner for the Dem party in the next election.

 

[mt terry d]

Fwiw, I know a dozen families that have moved out of California to Idaho, Montana, and Tennessee. All are solid Conservatives that hate the hypocrite Dem politicians running CA.

And the vast majority of them will vote for every levy increase.

Just saying.

 

[Gravel Road]

Funny, but last year I had to go to Los Angeles, Ca for a conference and it was great. Spent a few extra days in the area and found friendly people that seemed much happier than here in the Midwest.

 

[Weldor]

Snowbirds, we have a ton on Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming and Canadian's that winter down in Southern Az. They don't hack the winters, they just come down here.

 

[Eldoradotim]

So much derp. Maybe most people moving to ID/WY/MT aren't from the Bay Area or Southern CA?

Maybe its people like me who grew up in Tahoe and think 10 months of Summer sucks?

Maybe some people actually like seasons and cold and Winter?

Maybe 2 seasons is boring?

I'm sitting here in central Idaho with a blue sky day and no snow on the ground with my kids asking when is it ever going to snow and when can we start skiing?

I for one, as a lifelong Californian until 4 years ago.....hate california weather. So boring. Unless you're talking mountain weather, where we used to measure snow in FEET instead of inches here in Idaho. On the upside, the temperature is a couple clicks lower on average so our snow sticks around longer.

Anyways, I think the "wait until we get a real Winter!" is laughable. My friends from Texas however.......yeah they moved back to Boise (hot)!

 

[Eldoradotim]

What statistics???? I don't have any numbers but from what I see most people moving from places like CA and NY keep voting liberal. Look at cities like Boise, Bozeman, states like AZ, CO and many others. Do you think it is people born and raised in these places that are changing the political demographics or new people moving in? From what I have seen people who think they are conservative in CA move away because of the insanity and when they see real conservative values go back to voting liberal.

My Bay Area buddy always talks like this, laughs that me and another buddy are soon-to-be-screwed because all the Californians moving to Boise and Idaho in general.

It's been shown that majority moving to Idaho are conservative, confirmed recently by official voter registration stats.

So anyways, I'm sure NM is different (hunted there twice, beautiful but total 3rd world state) but here in ID/MT/WY we are getting MORE red with people moving here not less.

 

[180ls1]

Lack of affordability is a big one.

Here in SD you need an income of $275k/yr to afford the average house. It's killing my friends in their 30's trying to raise a family.

 

[180ls1]

My Bay Area buddy always talks like this, laughs that me and another buddy are soon-to-be-screwed because all the Californians moving to Boise and Idaho in general.

It's been shown that majority moving to Idaho are conservative, confirmed recently by official voter registration stats.

So anyways, I'm sure NM is different (hunted there twice, beautiful but total 3rd world state) but here in ID/MT/WY we are getting MORE red with people moving here not less.

Idaho Sun showed 75% CA residents moving there are Republican. *All* my friends that moved there vote red and it's quite a substantial amount.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Financially it’s hard to move back. Prices are higher than ever. They couldn’t afford the home they left behind, they’d have to downsize or rent something small.

And some older people I know that have moved their just sit inside with the heater on all winter watching tv.

I think this is a big factor, hard to leave your 6,000 sqft house to go back to a 1300 sqft house in an area that’s probably not as nice, that coastal money did a number on the west… feel like the transplant madness has slowed some, likely because all the west’s prices have really skyrocketed and the CA and NY prices have leveled out… someone else referenced this

 

[Hnthrdr]

Idaho Sun showed 75% CA residents moving there are Republican. *All* my friends that moved there vote red and it's quite a substantial amount.

That’s encouraging… I guess Co was siphoning off all the liberal ones

 

[Hnthrdr]

Snowbirds, we have a ton on Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming and Canadian's that winter down in Southern Az. They don't hack the winters, they just come down here.

Facts, back in 2011-2019 when Cali prices were 2-5x of everywhere else i think a lot of secondary homes were purchased

 

[Eldoradotim]

Yea CO got screwed by Californians. But it seems the opposite is occurring with the current exodus.