Why every liberal millennial.......

[brettdunn7]

Or how about home schooling is about not letting the government indoctrinate your child however they want to.

Or actually being a parent to your child like the Agrarian societies used to be and not letting a government run institution raise your child for you.


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So because parents don’t home school their kids they aren’t being a parent to them or aren’t raising them?


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[Billinsd]

Home school is about control. Let's not beat around the bush.

I think you are kind of right. Some home school parents want to be very much in control of their kids education. There's reasons for this, some are for control, I think a bigger majority are parents that despise the corrupt, liberal school system that they believe will turn their kids against them, that can happen. I respect parents that want to home school their kids. I don't home school my kids, because my wife and I don't have the training and skills to do a good job. My goal, and I'm extremely controlling is for my kids to get an EXCELLENT education and that also means exposure to liberal ideas and influence, a risk I'm totally willing to accept. I believe having such a STRONG influence on my kids goes with them to school and social settings. Bill

 

[Marbles]

Opportunity in getting ahead and promoted, is what I should have said. My observations, not perceptions are in San Diego, which is extremely liberal and has and does lower the bar for minorities and women in most all public agencies and job positions. That's what we were talking about. And just because there is a high percentage of white men, say as policemen or firemen, doesn't mean the bar is lowered or that it isn't lowered either to try and hire women and minorities. You have to look at the hiring practices, which is what I have done.

No, we where originally talking about how millennial's are a bunch of soft, idiot, dough wads who have destroyed the world. Then that morphed into a woe are white guys, victimhood homage.

Seeing as you perceive nothing, and only have perfect observations, there is no discussion left to be had.

Marbles out.

 

[Newtosavage]

(reaches for tinfoil hat...)

Or how about home schooling is about not letting the government indoctrinate your child however they want to.

Or actually being a parent to your child like the Agrarian societies used to be and not letting a government run institution raise your child for you.


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Like I said. It's about control.

I wish you luck.

 

[Bbell12]

So because parents don’t home school their kids they aren’t being a parent to them or aren’t raising them?


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Sorry, didn’t mean to insinuate that you’re a bad parent if your kids go to public schools. Just trying to defend the parents who decide to exercise their rights and home school their kids.


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[5MilesBack]

And, so, people were more intelligent when?
In the 80s? 70s? 60s? 50s?

I'll repeat his question......"Define intelligence"?

I've known more over-educated morons than I care to ever see again. Yet I also know a lot of folks that probably could have never even gotten into college that I would consider more intelligent with much more common sense. IMO common sense is a much better indicator for actually making a positive contribution to society and our nation.

 

[5MilesBack]

Like I said. It's about control.

You are correct. One has become the institution controlling the indoctrination of all children into liberal and socialistic thinking (that one's not even debatable), and the other is the institution of family, with parents controlling what their kids get indoctrinated with (we prefer free critical thinking as opposed to brain-washing).

I have no idea how many states or school districts have gone to common core, but that system is a big load of doo-doo all on its own, even separate from the liberal indoctrination.

The institutional brain-washing has gotten much worse in recent years, but that's not something that's suddenly appeared. I still remember a 400-level Labor Economics class in college that was taught by a socialist back in the 80's. Thankfully I've always been an independent critical thinker even through the public school system, so that was an interesting class with all the back and forths between the professor and me and one other guy. I'll give the guy some credit though, he gave me an A and said he enjoyed all the rebuttals......hopefully he learned something and isn't too late to change his comrade ways.

 

[Newtosavage]

Actually 5miles, your opening comment is debatable. You're reading directly from the alt-right playbook, I'm afraid, and it shows.

My wife has been a public HS teacher for nearly a decade now. Granted, we're in a small town in rural Texas, and I'm sure things are different elsewhere, but I can assure you the things you are saying "aren't even debatable" don't even apply here, or in many other districts I know. Perhaps you guys have a problem in the springs. It wouldn't surprise me with the typical front range mentality. However, we don't, and I guess that's why people are flocking to Texas in droves, to escape some of what you describe.

Your example of "surviving" the 400-level L.E. class in the 80's is a great one though. Somehow, you were able to sift through the bs and make up your own mind. I'm not sure why people think students are incapable of that today. So many boomers and even GenX'ers give the later generations far too little credit. They were raised to be even more suspicious and untrusting than we were. I know a lot of HS students because of my wife's job, and I can tell you, they are smart as hell and sort through bs really, really fast.

 

[5MilesBack]

Actually 5miles, your opening comment is debatable. You're reading directly from the alt-right playbook, I'm afraid, and it shows.

I don't even know what the alt-right playbook is or what it says. Like I said, I'm an "independent critical thinker".

Somehow, you were able to sift through the bs and make up your own mind. At least you admit that it's BS, that's a start. I'm not sure why people think students are incapable of that today.

If students are capable of that today.......then why are they overwhelmingly accepting and adapting to the socialist doctrine like we've never seen before in this country? There's a reason why millennial's were flocking to Bernie........it's because that's what they're being taught in the public school system. Polls are what they are, but even if they are only 75% accurate it's still pretty scary that ~60% of the millennial's polled said that they would choose socialism over capitalism. That's scary, and foretelling for our nation's future.

There are probably certain schools or even districts that are still taught by conservatives and with conservative values, but it's not even questionable that academia is overwhelmingly liberal, from the top down. That's just a fact.......and even they are proud of that. Just ask them. The Springs is the most conservative city/county in CO, but that's been changing over the last few years as so many liberals have moved in, just like the rest of the state.

 

[Newtosavage]

If students are capable of that today.......then why are they overwhelmingly accepting and adapting to the socialist doctrine like we've never seen before in this country? There's a reason why millennial's were flocking to Bernie........it's because that's what they're being taught in the public school system. Polls are what they are, but even if they are only 75% accurate it's still pretty scary that ~60% of the millennial's polled said that they would choose socialism over capitalism. That's scary, and foretelling for our nation's future.

There are probably certain schools or even districts that are still taught by conservatives and with conservative values, but it's not even questionable that academia is overwhelmingly liberal, from the top down. That's just a fact.......and even they are proud of that. Just ask them. The Springs is the most conservative city/county in CO, but that's been changing over the last few years as so many liberals have moved in, just like the rest of the state.

sigh. I suppose there will always be folks from older generations that lack confidence in younger generations. That probably won't ever change. But times do change man. label folks if you must. even move if you feel you must. But Texas is full, in case anyone asks. LOL

 

[Poser]

If students are capable of that today.......then why are they overwhelmingly accepting and adapting to the socialist doctrine like we've never seen before in this country? There's a reason why millennial's were flocking to Bernie........it's because that's what they're being taught in the public school system. Polls are what they are, but even if they are only 75% accurate it's still pretty scary that ~60% of the millennial's polled said that they would choose socialism over capitalism. That's scary, and foretelling for our nation's future.

There are probably certain schools or even districts that are still taught by conservatives and with conservative values, but it's not even questionable that academia is overwhelmingly liberal, from the top down. That's just a fact.......and even they are proud of that. Just ask them. The Springs is the most conservative city/county in CO, but that's been changing over the last few years as so many liberals have moved in, just like the rest of the state.

So, how do you explain all of the Baby Boomer hippies? These were folks who went to HS and college in the late 1950s and throughout the 60s.? It wouldn’t be hard to argue that was the largest wave of socialism agenda in American history and this was over 50 years ago.

 

[CorbLand]

Your example of "surviving" the 400-level L.E. class in the 80's is a great one though. Somehow, you were able to sift through the bs and make up your own mind. I'm not sure why people think students are incapable of that today. So many boomers and even GenX'ers give the later generations far too little credit. They were raised to be even more suspicious and untrusting than we were. I know a lot of HS students because of my wife's job, and I can tell you, they are smart as hell and sort through bs really, really fast.

Its impossible for people to give millennial's credit because obviously the idea of free thinking means that you must think just like them.

 

[BuzzH]

I'll repeat his question......"Define intelligence"?

I've known more over-educated morons than I care to ever see again. Yet I also know a lot of folks that probably could have never even gotten into college that I would consider more intelligent with much more common sense. IMO common sense is a much better indicator for actually making a positive contribution to society and our nation.

Your ability to stereo-type is only surpassed by your narrow view of the world.

Check this picture:

I hunt elk with these guys in Wyoming every year, according to you, over-educated morons with no common sense.

The guy on the left has a PhD in Nuclear Physics and taught at UW Madison also did a bunch of consulting for all kinds of nuclear related stuff. Also a pretty good elk hunter, I've packed several of the elk he's killed.

The guy in the middle, PhD in Wildlife Biology. Worked on a lot of the early radio collars and radio telemetry on elk, deer, pronghorn, bears, etc. in Wyoming and elsewhere. Shoots a .243 and has killed 50+ elk.

Guy on the right, holding the rack, has an advanced degree in Engineering and there just flat isn't much that he cant fix, tear apart and put back together. Also a pilot and still flies and coordinates search and rescue efforts for the civil air patrol. He's also a damn fine elk hunter as well.

These guys are very highly educated, very good elk hunters, and have no lack of woodsmenship skills, common sense, and all the "book learnin'" you could ask for.

I think your stereo-types are ridiculous...and a way to make yourself feel better.

Get over it...

 

[Billinsd]

My wife has been a public HS teacher for nearly a decade now. Granted, we're in a small town in rural Texas, and I'm sure things are different elsewhere

Things are probably greatly different in San Diego. Things are very different in the urban part of San Diego and the rural area my kids go to school as far as the teachers and administrators go. My kids had peace this and peace that. Every day before classes for a half hour they had peace corral, which took away from their class instruction. They gave the pledge of Allegiance, which was good. Then they gave awards for peace builders. Almost everyone got one, some were ridiculous to hear, like "Jimmy only disrupted the class 10 times this week". My daughter's teacher who was probably middle of the road politically and pretty level headed for a teacher talked one day about Bullying. I was in the class as a volunteer. I just about fell over when I heard her insinuate that two boys who had been hogging the ball during PE were BULLIES.
My wife works in a school district and I know several teachers and husbands of teachers. My one friend said teachers are the lowest common denominator in society. Some teachers are admirable and teaching is an honorable profession, however teachers at least in San Diego have less common sense than any group of people I've ever met. That and then here is what has destroyed the teaching profession, big unions in California. The unions give huge amounts of money to liberal politicians and these politicians protect the unions. The teachers unions have destroyed teachers and the kids suffer. That is the liberal link.

Watch this

 

[Dustin the wind]

Your ability to stereo-type is only surpassed by your narrow view of the world.

Check this picture:

I hunt elk with these guys in Wyoming every year, according to you, over-educated morons with no common sense.

The guy on the left has a PhD in Nuclear Physics and taught at UW Madison also did a bunch of consulting for all kinds of nuclear related stuff. Also a pretty good elk hunter, I've packed several of the elk he's killed.

The guy in the middle, PhD in Wildlife Biology. Worked on a lot of the early radio collars and radio telemetry on elk, deer, pronghorn, bears, etc. in Wyoming and elsewhere. Shoots a .243 and has killed 50+ elk.

Guy on the right, holding the rack, has an advanced degree in Engineering and there just flat isn't much that he cant fix, tear apart and put back together. Also a pilot and still flies and coordinates search and rescue efforts for the civil air patrol. He's also a damn fine elk hunter as well.

These guys are very highly educated, very good elk hunters, and have no lack of woodsmenship skills, common sense, and all the "book learnin'" you could ask for.

I think your stereo-types are ridiculous...and a way to make yourself feel better.

Get over it...

You’re over generalizing his statement to insinuate all highly educated people are not bright with common sense. He didn’t say that at all, you just threw out a bunch of PHDs and said see! Look!

 

[Billinsd]

Check this picture:

These guys are very highly educated, very good elk hunters, and have no lack of woodsmenship skills, common sense, and all the "book learnin'" you could ask for.

Bravo Buzz, that makes my day!!! Extremely educated men that hunt and a bunch together are buddies!! These men are my mentors and I often say, if you are educated and can't communicate to others and/or don't have common sense that advanced education is pretty worthless. I'm a professional engineer, also have a degree in geology and know many in the medical field. I believe most people that are highly educated, like physicians and engineers don't have a lot of common sense. Your photo with these great men is as common as a shooting star. That's been my experience. I'm sooo far the other way, obsessively so. I'd say 50% of the civil engineers I know I wouldn't trust to design a bird house, however most I know work for the government.

 

[Billinsd]

I had a great conversation with my podiatrist once. I really, really like good physicians and give them more credit than the civil engineers I know. I compled to my podiatrist about the engineers I know having such little common sense and what he thought of physicians. He said both groups are smart. He said when he went to medical school he did what it took to get exceptional grades. He learned right away what the teachers wanted and how to excel, while others didn't catch on to this and suffered. I learned the same thing in geology and engineering to study the professors lecture notes not text books and listen and especially talk to my professors who would tell me what was important and how to excel. This I believe translated at least in me to common sense. Cheers Bill

 

[Billinsd]

I think your stereo-types are ridiculous...and a way to make yourself feel better.

Get over it...

His stereotypes are not ridiculous, they are negative and true and I don't believe he uses them to feel better. It doesn't make me feel better. Makes me sad. A stereotype doesn't mean something different is impossible, which you have proved. Cheers Bill

 

[Ndbowhunter]

How could a thread called liberal millennials not deliver?

Love seeing the same posters as usual tripping over themselves to see who’s the smartest kid on the short bus.

 

[BuzzH]

You’re over generalizing his statement to insinuate all highly educated people are not bright with common sense. He didn’t say that at all, you just threw out a bunch of PHDs and said see! Look!

I'm over generalizing?

Laffin'...