Which suppressor would you choose? Thoughts on the Nomad Ti XC?

[Q_Sertorius]

I have been searching for a "final" suppressor to try out on one of my rifles. The primary rifle on which I intend to use it is probably a mini-RSS in .223 with 16" barrel. Use case will be still hunting, plinking, and target practice.

After reading a lot of Form's comments, I agree with his advice to not get a dedicated .224 or similarly small can. It makes more sense to me to get a .30 caliber can that I can swap around to other rifles as needed. For instance, I have a .270 getting cut to 21" and a 6.5 CM getting cut to 20" right now. I don't plan to have a dedicated suppressor for every rifle, but my Scythe is likely staying on my CZ forever.

This is the little table I built to help me make my decision. I pulled numbers from the manufacturer's websites and compared with the 2024 Summit results for validation.


I already backordered a Raptor 8 w/ 3" reflex. I already own a Scythe Ti and the OG. I would be open to getting a second Raptor 8 or OG. I will not buy another Scythe Ti. I have sort of mentally excluded the TBAC Ultra 7 and Enticer LTI because I cannot figure out why I would get one them over the Raptor 8, OG, or Nomad. The Raptor 10 just seems too big and heavy for a hunting can.

I am not dead set on having another suppressor, but the Nomad really intrigues me. That is the one in which I am most interested in getting experience and feedback. I have read that Dead Air had some durability issues in the past, but I haven't seen anything more recent. Is it as good a can as the numbers seem to indicate?

I would also like to hear thoughts on using the OG or OG L as a .224 can. I have a fat-barreled .22-250 that could really use a reflex suppressor if I chose to thread it.

Finally, are there any great options I have excluded?

Thank you.

 

[Lawnboi]

Buy the first one you find in stock. Just not the scythe.

Your way over thinking this

 

[5811]

I think if you are going to hunt with it, I'd suggest you look in the 6-7" class of nomad xc, enticer sti, etc.

I like that tbac does the Summit, but there is no way I'm buying that the scythe is quieter than the enticer lti. If you want a can to make people ooooh and ahhh at the range, it's the hyperion/nomad lt/enticer lti class cans.

 

[HuntHarder]

Scythe and hope it doesn't blow up. It's still my favorite. May change after it grenades.

For somebody reason I skipped right over the part that you already own it.

 

[wind gypsy]

Had similar convo via PMs this morning with someone.

From a pure weight, sound, length balance the XC is a nice package that seemingly hasn't had the durability issues of scythe although i'd bet there are fewer rounds through them as well.

Raptor 8 with reflex sound awful good, they're just heavy. Seems they perform well with flush mount too?

My 18" 223 typically wears a gen 1 30 cal ultra 7 and that is nice and that is notably quieter than any of my 6/6.5 creeds with scythe or xc but its a lot less powder too. If a guy is doing a lot of low magnification/distance hunting/shooting in the east, the 1.5" cans are nice for being a little less in the FOV too. I'm not a big fan of TBACs insistence on a CB or gluing a heavy CB inside for a "direct thread" version but thats a minor gripe.

OCL hydrogen S is another that seems to fit in the raptor 8/nomad XC class nicely.

Agree with @Lawnboi like always - just pick one (XC, U7, AB 8, hydro S).

 

[Schmo]

Yeah, you missed one. If you’re not set on an OTB can, then get an A-10 7.62. For under $500, it’s performance is awesome.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Yeah, you missed one. If you’re not set on an OTB can, then get an A-10 7.62. For under $500, it’s performance is awesome.

The AB A-10? Okay. I will check it out. Thanks!


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[Schmo]

The AB A-10? Okay. I will check it out. Thanks!


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Yes. If you already have one or two 30 cal cans, I would consider doing the dedicated A-10 5.56 can. That what I’m going to do next, since I have an A-10 7.62 already. It’s a little shorter and lighter.

 

[Lawnboi]

If you care about your suppressor being ounces heavier in carbon, and crap falling down your barrel constantly material dosnt matter much. Otherwise titanium is pretty brainless to clean every few thousand rounds to mitigate to the above.

And before anyone gets butt hurt I am aware you can just run everything dirty all the time.

 

[JF_Idaho]

Since you're pretty sensitive to loudness check out the LPM Mach S. Supposed to be a little quieter (and a touch heavier/longer) than the Ti XC. I don't own a Ti XC so can't give you a personal opinion between the 2.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

XC is my primary suppressor. I switch out the front cap depending what it's on at the time. It's a great can and you can get the weight down even more by replacing the DT adapter. I think mine was 8.5 oz before putting the brake cap gizmo thingy on it (which I'll probably remove soon as I can't tell any difference).

 

[adamantine]

After a ton of thought on the same process I went Ti XC and don't regret it.

Warning that your stats are very off (for example, Scythe is quoted as weight without any adapters, and the TiXC is all adapters including their super heavy steel direct thread.... have to take advertised weights with grain of salt).

TLDR Ti XC was 0.5" and 0.5oz heavier that scythe after replacing direct thread with Rearden (or equiv) and much better db ratings + tone according to folks I trust on and off here. + No history of grenading like scythe.

Really any of the new 3D printed cans are probably going to be a level up on the Gen2 welded ones, imagine SiCo and others are developing their versions now (Which will leapfrog current). Just get one, any of them is so far superior to none.

 

[TxLite]

I love my scythe but with the issues people have had, I’d be hesitant to recommend it. If I was going to recommend something else it would be the tbac or the nomad ti xc

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Solid list full of good choices. I’d strongly consider the PTR Vent 1 and Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen. In the same size weight class and are top performers sound wise.

 

[Kaleb]

I have the older nomad ti and like it just fine. I might end up getting the new model depending on what I think about the OG. I got it yesterday but didn’t make the time to shoot it yet. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Yes. If you already have one or two 30 cal cans, I would consider doing the dedicated A-10 5.56 can. That what I’m going to do next, since I have an A-10 7.62 already. It’s a little shorter and lighter.

I would rather get a .30 caliber can and maybe switch the end cap later on than get a dedicated 5.56 can. I don’t think it makes enough difference in noise reduction.

Does anyone have any SE dBA measurements for the AB A-10? AB won’t publish any data on this and none of the sites i have found so far list it.


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[CMP70306]

Depending on how long you want the can I’d say the Nomad TiXC, RXD30TI or the Nomad LTI XC. L will be the quietest, the Nomad the shortest and the RXD in between with the benefit of the built in and shortened Ebrake.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Solid list full of good choices. I’d strongly consider the PTR Vent 1 and Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen. In the same size weight class and are top performers sound wise.

Yes, I reviewed them, but already excluded them from competition for [probably trifling] reasons.

The Hydrogen and Vent are about 9” and I don’t want a can that sticks out as far as something else. That is a slight knock against the Enticer as well, but I left it on the list because it has so many fans on RokSlide. It also doesn’t stick out as far as something else.

As no one ever said, “I know they are great cans, but they just stick out too far.”


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[ZeroFoxGiven]

Yes, I reviewed them, but already excluded them from competition for [probably trifling] reasons.

The Hydrogen and Vent are about 9” and I don’t want a can that sticks out as far as something else. That is a slight knock against the Enticer as well, but I left it on the list because it has so many fans on RokSlide. It also doesn’t stick out as far as something else.

As no one ever said, “I know they are great cans, but they just stick out too far.”


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Makes sense. I love my LTI but I’m also running it on an 8” barrel so length isn’t a big concern.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Depending on how long you want the can I’d say the Nomad TiXC, RXD30TI or the Nomad LTI XC. L will be the quietest, the Nomad the shortest and the RXD in between with the benefit of the built in and shortened Ebrake.

This can will go on something with a 16”-20” barrel, so I really want it under 7” and closer to 6”. I am going to have one or two rifles that are really long for some open field work, but most of my hunting is in woods. So, as short as possible without compromising suppression too much is the goal.

The OG’s 4” is a real selling point for it. The OG is the reason the AB Raptor 2, 4, and 6 aren’t on the list. The OG is a known quantity to me and I don’t see the point of getting something that potentially rates at 131 vs 133 (even though sound is logarithmic, not linear).

I don’t think anyone makes a 4”+4” 1.75” diameter 7.62 suppressor that weighs under 12 ounces and rates at 128 dBA or better at SE. That is what I really want.


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