Which Scope That Has Passed the Evaluation Has the Best Eyebox?

[chutinlead]

Wouldn't it be an exit pupil of 11.2-2.24? With an exit pupil of 4.4 at 25 power it would have a 110mm objective......would it not?

If only I had a ZP5 in front of me to test it.

They list the exit pupil in the spec sheet. It's not something you have to calculate

 

[5MilesBack]

They list the exit pupil in the spec sheet. It's not something you have to calculate

It's not much of a calculation to do, but what was posted appears to be wrong.

 

[CoHunter1991]

Through my searches the ZP5 is not made in MOA… what is the second best scope for eye box forgiveness that passed this test?

 

[chutinlead]

Through my searches the ZP5 is not made in MOA… what is the second best scope for eye box forgiveness that passed this test?

My bet would be on the 4-16x42 ATACR

 

[Mik123]

Has the Minox ZP5 3-15x50 ever been tested? It's reticle is much better at lower power than the 5-25x56

 

[CoHunter1991]

My bet would be on the 4-16x42 ATACR

Okay thank you. Such a bummer Luepold scopes keep failing. The eyebox on my VX5 is unbelievable

 

[Dobermann]

Has the Minox ZP5 3-15x50 ever been tested? It's reticle is much better at lower power than the 5-25x56

I'm not sure it's been drop evaluated here.

But which reticle are you referring to?

There's surprisingly little weight difference between the two, and only the 5-25 has the THLR reticle - this has been covered here a few times before ... possibly in the 5.25 thread: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/q-a-for-minox-zp5-5-25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/

 

[Dobermann]

Through my searches the ZP5 is not made in MOA… what is the second best scope for eye box forgiveness that passed this test?

Having read through this thread, I'm not sure what you're chasing here ...

If this is just a theoretical exercise to find out which scope has passed the drop eval and has a good eyebox, lots of options have been covered above.

If you're asking which one has an MOA reticle, that's just a matter of web researching ... which most of us will leave to you to do for yourself. But know that MOA reticles aren't Form's choice (who does most of the evals here) and will only likely be on scopes that other members or sellers send in.

Don't get me wrong, as eyebox matters to me a lot too ... but there's so much more to the overall picture (weight, reticle, etc).

So if this is just a "comparing the numbers / user experiences" question, rock on. But if it's about helping identify a scope for a particular use, people might want more info to be able to be more helpful.

 

[CoHunter1991]

Having read through this thread, I'm not sure what you're chasing here ...

If this is just a theoretical exercise to find out which scope has passed the drop eval and has a good eyebox, lots of options have been covered above.

If you're asking which one has an MOA reticle, that's just a matter of web researching ... which most of us will leave to you to do for yourself. But know that MOA reticles aren't Form's choice (who does most of the evals here) and will only likely be on scopes that other members or sellers send in.

Don't get me wrong, as eyebox matters to me a lot too ... but there's so much more to the overall picture (weight, reticle, etc).

So if this is just a "comparing the numbers / user experiences" question, rock on. But if it's about helping identify a scope for a particular use, people might want more info to be able to be more helpful.

I am just trying to address which scope that has passed the test has the most forgiving eyebox as i am trying to decide on an optic for my rifle. Reticle preference is not what I'm after since everyone has their opinion. And I like MOA adjustments so i was just adding that filter. This group has likely been behind most optics so i was just looking for the ones people found the most forgiving.

 

[CoHunter1991]

And currently it sounds like the ATACR is the route i should go. They have a 4-16x42 which is the mag range I'm looking for. Just want to know if the eyebox is that much better then say a maven RS1.2 or Credo HX for almost double the cost. I fell in love with my Luepold VX5 eyebox prior to this forum...

 

[Dobermann]

I am just trying to address which scope that has passed the test has the most forgiving eyebox as i am trying to decide on an optic for my rifle. Reticle preference is not what I'm after since everyone has their opinion. And I like MOA adjustments so i was just adding that filter. This group has likely been behind most optics so i was just looking for the ones people found the most forgiving.

Thanks for the context ... I'd mentioned reticle not so much because I thought you should be hearing everyone else's opinions (although there's a lot of good info here on what makes more useful and less useful hunting reticles), but because once eyebox is 'good enough' then reticle is likely the driving factor ...

 

[CoHunter1991]

Yeah I understand that too. For me eyebox is very important and I can make do with a verity of reticles. Just need a scope that’s the easiest to get behind

 

[Mik123]

I'm not sure it's been drop evaluated here.

But which reticle are you referring to?

There's surprisingly little weight difference between the two, and only the 5-25 has the THLR reticle - this has been covered here a few times before ... possibly in the 5.25 thread: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/q-a-for-minox-zp5-5-25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/

I have the MR2 reticle.

 

[redchinviking]

My atacr 4-16 is the best I’ve been behind. Better than nxs 2.5-10 and credo (by a lot). I also agree the nx8 eye box issue is overplayed, but it is slightly noticeable. Shot them all side by side last week and that atacr stands out.

 

[CoHunter1991]

Minox ZP5 5-25x- and it’s not even close.






The NX8 eyebox issue is greatly overblown. They are just fine.

Think the Minox ZP5 3-15x50mm would share the great Eyebox? Ever looked through one?

 

[43.6N]

Which scope that has passed the evaluation and has the best / forgiving eye box? I have heard a lot of complains about the NX8 eye box but they seem rock solid durability wise.

-The Maven eye box is enormous. Probably the most like a leupold that you will find.
-The issues with the NX8 are much talked about, but rarely actually present IRL. My 4-32 is one of my proofing scopes that gets used when I want to rule out a gun/ammo issue.
-The 4-16 ATACR may just be the single best scope NF has ever made.
-The 3-9 SWFA may just be the single best hunting scope anyone has made to date.

Getting behind any of the above scopes is easy. Not a single eye box issue that I can think of.

I wasn’t cool enough to order the THLR Minox. But people who’s opinions I respect only have good things to say.

 

[CoHunter1991]

-The Maven eye box is enormous. Probably the most like a leupold that you will find.
-The issues with the NX8 are much talked about, but rarely actually present IRL. My 4-32 is one of my proofing scopes that gets used when I want to rule out a gun/ammo issue.
-The 4-16 ATACR may just be the single best scope NF has ever made.
-The 3-9 SWFA may just be the single best hunting scope anyone has made to date.

Getting behind any of the above scopes is easy. Not a single eye box issue that I can think of.

I wasn’t cool enough to order the THLR Minox. But people who’s opinions I respect only have good things to say.

Do you think the Maven RS1.2 has a more forgiving eyebox compared to the Trijicon Credo and Tenmile? What about the SWFA 3-15 Gen 2?

 

[43.6N]

Do you think the Maven RS1.2 has a more forgiving eyebox compared to the Trijicon Credo and Tenmile? What about the SWFA 3-15 Gen 2?

No experience with the Trijicons. And as far as the SWFA, it’s splitting hairs.

How are you defining the eye box?
In practice, what was it about the vx5 that you attribute to “a good eye box?”

I can say that when I owned a VX6, and then the maven, I immediately liked shooting the maven in all aspects. From image quality, to reticle, turret feel. And I found the maven reticle to be one of the best hunting FFP MOA reticles out there (moa2)

 

[HuntHarder]

No experience with the Trijicons. And as far as the SWFA, it’s splitting hairs.

How are you defining the eye box?
In practice, what was it about the vx5 that you attribute to “a good eye box?”

I can say that when I owned a VX6, and then the maven, I immediately liked shooting the maven in all aspects. From image quality, to reticle, turret feel. And I found the maven reticle to be one of the best hunting FFP MOA reticles out there (moa2)

Wild! Leupold's eyebox and image are pretty hard to beat in a direct comparison. Eyebox is overblown a lot, but when you get behind a scope with a large or forgiving eyebox, it is easily noticeable.

 

[43.6N]

Wild! Leupold's eyebox and image are pretty hard to beat in a direct comparison. Eyebox is overblown a lot, but when you get behind a scope with a large or forgiving eyebox, it is easily noticeable.

No doubt.
I went from the 3-15 VX5 with windplex to the 3-18 VX6hd during a warranty. That scope was better in every way.
The rifle it was on took a nosedive down a rock face during a hunt. I had been hearing good things about maven at the time, so picked up the rs1.2 in order to keep my hunt going.

The maven kept up in every way with the VX6.
When the VX6 got back from the leupold warranty department, I shot both for a month, and ultimately settled on the maven as the better overall package.