Which Bullets to use? ELD-m "Murder bullets" for everything?

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Generally speaking ribs will hold their shape regardless of what’s happening inside or outside if they are not fractured.
Sure. Generally. I can watch my dog's ribs rise and fall as he lays on the floor. Obviously, a much larger, heavier animal would probably have a more pronounced effect.
 

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By how much? Watch your own chest as you take the deepest breath you can, then breathe out as much as possible. It’s probably a 5% difference from fully inflated, more than normal breath, to as deflated as possible without actually dying. 10% max. A theoretical animal that actually has a four foot wide chest, is still going to be 3’7” to 3’9” when deflated.
 

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Sure. Generally. I can watch my dog's ribs rise and fall as he lays on the floor. Obviously, a much larger, heavier animal would probably have a more pronounced effect.
The rib cage normally does expand and contract with breathing, but an animal laying on the ground won’t change the rib cage dimensions significantly more than being at a full expiration.
 
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I know the 147 eldm in the 6.5mm gets a lot of love. Wondering how the 120el or the 130eldm does on deer and elk? I’m a summing just as well but wanted to confirm before I bought some


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Fairly steep reduction in BC. Fine at reasonable distances, as with any other similar projectile.

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I know the 147 eldm in the 6.5mm gets a lot of love. Wondering how the 120el or the 130eldm does on deer and elk? I’m a summing just as well but wanted to confirm before I bought some


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If you want a 130 grain bullet try to find some sierra tmk they are one of the premier 6.5 bullets
 

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I can say that a 30 cal 178ELDM at 360 yards is quite effective on a pig… maybe too much on something you want to eat.
 

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I know the 147 eldm in the 6.5mm gets a lot of love. Wondering how the 120el or the 130eldm does on deer and elk? I’m a summing just as well but wanted to confirm before I bought some


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I've used the 130 eldm on deer. It works just fine.

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I worked at Sydney zoo when I was young
There were a number of rifles strategically stashed around the place with no security because when you need one you need one fast
 

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I know nothing about giraffes other than I saw one at the zoo as a kid. Is there something special about them that leads you to believe they can survive with a 5 inch wide by 16 inch deep hole in their chest cavity?
I shot a Nilgai in South Texas last week. Figured how tough can they be? They are tough as hell. I'm all about a 6mm but zero chance I'd try to bust one of those down unless I could tag it in the neck or ear. My 300 WM felt small once I saw the size of a 1300# bull. No doubt you make a perfect shot it will work but those damn things don't sit still so you shoot them moving. Giraffe I'd be all about a 338 Lapua. And I do like small calibers for almost all my hunting now. With good but marginal hits they jump in the bush so fast and the hole plugs up so you never find them. Nilgai will run 5 miles on one lung. Giraffes are similar but twice the size.
 

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I shot a Nilgai in South Texas last week. Figured how tough can they be? They are tough as hell. I'm all about a 6mm but zero chance I'd try to bust one of those down unless I could tag it in the neck or ear. My 300 WM felt small once I saw the size of a 1300# bull. No doubt you make a perfect shot it will work but those damn things don't sit still so you shoot them moving. Giraffe I'd be all about a 338 Lapua. And I do like small calibers for almost all my hunting now. With good but marginal hits they jump in the bush so fast and the hole plugs up so you never find them. Nilgai will run 5 miles on one lung. Giraffes are similar but twice the size.

Are you aware that the giraffe with a 6mm deal happened and is available for viewing on youtube?
 

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I shot a Nilgai in South Texas last week. Figured how tough can they be? They are tough as hell. I'm all about a 6mm but zero chance I'd try to bust one of those down unless I could tag it in the neck or ear. My 300 WM felt small once I saw the size of a 1300# bull. No doubt you make a perfect shot it will work but those damn things don't sit still so you shoot them moving. Giraffe I'd be all about a 338 Lapua. And I do like small calibers for almost all my hunting now. With good but marginal hits they jump in the bush so fast and the hole plugs up so you never find them. Nilgai will run 5 miles on one lung. Giraffes are similar but twice the size.
Nah. I don't "reach" for my Lapua until we hit T-Rex territory personally.
 

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Nah. I don't "reach" for my Lapua until we hit T-Rex territory personally.
I feel the same way. Have a neck injury so avoid at all costs. Guide "required" a 300 as minimum. But after I saw the damn thing it kind of felt T-Rex like. My 300 with a 180 TTSX went the entire length of the animal front to back and lodged just at the ass. It still ran and I put a shot in the neck in the brush. Shot the rest of the ranch up with a 7 Saum and Berger bullets.
 

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I feel the same way. Have a neck injury so avoid at all costs. Guide "required" a 300 as minimum. But after I saw the damn thing it kind of felt T-Rex like. My 300 with a 180 TTSX went the entire length of the animal front to back and lodged just at the ass. It still ran and I put a shot in the neck in the brush. Shot the rest of the ranch up with a 7 Saum and Berger bullets.

You’ve never had a deer run after being shot in the chest?
 
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