What's up with the Garmin Xero Bow Sight

[Szwampdonkey]

You make quite an effort here but it’s an argument for crossbows during general season or perhaps a bow > crossbow > rifle progression. For all your typing you can’t defeat the fact that every dictionary defines archery as bow and arrow.

Also, no one asked for your psychoanalysis of their emotional state and the secret subconsciously buried motivations why they think archery should be bow as the dictionary and common sense will tell you.

Your mommy was obviously disappointed with you when you promised you were going to get her a deer that was “this big” and when you failed and she gave you that disappointed look you obviously started to look for other ways to make her happy including convincing yourself that archery could include trebuchet, ballista and crossbow.

Please don’t respond unless it’s to apologize to the other guy.

To clarify, i’m NOT against using crossbows to hunt.

I am against calling them bows and allowing them during a 4 month long season designed for less efficient weapons.

 

[Szwampdonkey]

Doesn’t seem like I’m the one crying, here.

Hunter numbers are shrinking each year. Show me the numbers for your state that prove that crossbow kills surpass bow kills by a wide margin. I’m thinking you’re going to come up short on that.

And what have been your first-hand experiences that there is a certain mentality being brought in by hunters using crossbows.

And when did this conversation change to crossbows? I thought we were talking about the Garmin Xero sight, and how its use has no affect on you. I’d rather someone use a Garmin Xero and hit dead on, than make a bad shot and wound an animal.

While you’re looking up statistics for Wisconsin, see if you can find how many deer are un-recovered by recurve/traditional bow hunters, compared to compound and crossbow. I don’t know if those statistics are maintained, but have a sneaking suspicion which way the stats weigh heaviest.

So you say that there are “10 times the number of bowhunters” out there, since Wisconsin legalized. Can you prove that? So am I mistaken, or are you just upset that you don’t have the whole woods to yourself? You said before that archery is dying, but then you turned right around and said there’s 10 times the number of bowhunters. Crossbows have been around since roughly 6 B.C. By that fact, you should be more concerned then, with gun hunters invading your “private public land”.

So you’ve got some more competition in the woods over the last 8 years, so what. I think your emotions are letting you make a bigger deal out of it than it actually is. I highly doubt that crossbows outnumber vertical bows by the 10:1 margin you suggest. Nor do I believe that crossbow kills have a wider margin on harvest rates than vertical bows. I’d be willing to bet there are far more vertical bow hunters than crossbows hunters in Wisconsin. I think you - if you - see one or two people with a crossbow, you assume there is a hundred behind them. You’re letting your emotions cause you to make irrational claims. Facts, my friend, find the facts before you make the bold claims.

Take a look at website activity. Compare the activity on the crossbow sections to the activity on the vertical bow sections. The activity difference is in terms of millions.

Ever been to an ASA shoot? How many vertical bows compared to Crossbows? Just guessing here, I’d say 1000:1.

Stop letting what others do steal your joy. Live your life your way and stop thinking you have a right to control what other people choose to legally do. It’s not with your heartache.


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So far the numbers in WI for 2024:

Bow killed deer 35990
Crossbow killed deer 58214

Actual bow hunters 100% are a dying breed. Archery hunting is slowly being wiped out because most will take the path of least resistance which a crossbow is. Pretty hard to argue otherwise but i suspect you’ll try.

 

[turbobrick]

I really like mine, its easy to use and the big FOV works for me. I am planning on selling it though, I'm changing bows and need a different style sight.

 

[gf99-99]

I had about 10 buddies that got them right out of the gate....now only one guy still uses it. Multiple reasons for dumping it.

My guess is you can find one cheap in the classifieds

This is a very interesting stat. Any more details on the reasons why everyone ditched them? I would be super curious to know.

It also really depends on the type of hunting you do. If you use a blind or tree stand and have a lot of time to range objects before an animal comes in, not too big of an advantage If you do more spot and stalk in wide open areas they are a huge advantage.

Almost all "spot and stalk"