What is Federal paying to shill for 7 backcountry?

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

in one of the videos, the Fed rep said they only need neck resizing since the alloy is far more resilient than brass.

The salesman (who don't make reloading dies), said it. Did they show it? Have reloading die makers confirmed it? Has anyone tested that?

Again hopefully its all sorted out but at this point skeptism is merited vs "look they said it'll work" imho. Cause if it was merely that simple why wasn't it known from day 1? That doesn't seem odd to you after lots of assurances reloading info was coming it was as simple as just neck sizing it? IE the simplest thing to do and seems like one of the first things that would have already been tried?

Is this simple neck sizing easily done on a hand press? Another reasonable question for a salesman.

 

[wind gypsy]

Stillllll waiting on the reloading stuff that they claimed was possible the day it dropped. Obviously there are issues. But they do seem to be pushing it a bit harder recently for some reason. Maybe they were mad at how it had already fallen off and they're trying to prop it back up on the ledge so it can make it's final fall.

Maybe I'm mistaken but to me, it seems that the guys that are on the cusp of pushing limits are reloaders. Not too many guys are going to be that into the ballistics if they're not already reloading because they're hamstrung by factory ammo. That's where this misses the mark in my book.

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The salesman (who don't make reloading dies), said it. Did they show it? Have reloading die makers confirmed it? Has anyone tested that?

Again hopefully its all sorted out but at this point skeptism is merited vs "look they said it'll work" imho. Cause if it was merely that simple why wasn't it known from day 1? That doesn't seem odd to you after lots of assurances reloading info was coming it was as simple as just neck sizing it? IE the simplest thing to do and seems like one of the first things that would have already been tried?

Is this simple neck sizing easily done on a hand press? Another reasonable question for a salesman.

Is reloading not here?

Thread '7mm Backcountry Reloading dies and data is now available.'

Oct 3, 2025

Maybe I am late to the game, but this is an interesting development in this cartridge.

I was starting to wonder if it was ever going to happen...

7mm Backcountry Dies

7mm Backcountry Reloading Dies

leeprecision.com

https://www.federalpremium.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-VistaFederalSharedLibrary/default/v68205b7d09a89b7c38f0bded27521a718d8eb7a9/contentDocuments/FP2100-7mm-Backcountry-Reloading-Data-Sheet_web-disclaimer-2.pdf

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• Forum: Reloading

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[bnewt3]

Very true

Theres also a huge difference between for example "Arken is just as good as NF for 1/4 the $" and "Arken is great value, but it isnt NF"

One is complete BS, one is a reasonable statement.

 

[TheViking]

I went to Scheels this past wknd and browsed the ammo section. There was a TON of 7mm Backcountry on the shelves, but it didn't look like a single box was sold from the pile lol They could've just restocked it, but I'm leaning towards no one is buying that crap. Everything else was pretty picked apart.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Is reloading not here?

Thread '7mm Backcountry Reloading dies and data is now available.'

Oct 3, 2025

Maybe I am late to the game, but this is an interesting development in this cartridge.

I was starting to wonder if it was ever going to happen...

7mm Backcountry Dies

7mm Backcountry Reloading Dies

leeprecision.com

https://www.federalpremium.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-VistaFederalSharedLibrary/default/v68205b7d09a89b7c38f0bded27521a718d8eb7a9/contentDocuments/FP2100-7mm-Backcountry-Reloading-Data-Sheet_web-disclaimer-2.pdf

• Sundodger
• Replies: 44
• Forum: Reloading

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Has anyone actually tried reloading yet in that thread (I didn't notice browsing) or in media? The warning on Lee's site I wonder about as noted previously in this thread.

 

[bnewt3]

The salesman (who don't make reloading dies), said it. Did they show it? Have reloading die makers confirmed it? Has anyone tested that?

Again hopefully its all sorted out but at this point skeptism is merited vs "look they said it'll work" imho. Cause if it was merely that simple why wasn't it known from day 1? That doesn't seem odd to you after lots of assurances reloading info was coming it was as simple as just neck sizing it? IE the simplest thing to do and seems like one of the first things that would have already been tried?

Is this simple neck sizing easily done on a hand press? Another reasonable question for a salesman.

all fair points, im not disputing any of it. Just seems odd that Fed says neck sizing, yet Lee sells FL dies. Realistically we have alot of speculation and little concrete evidence of anything.

edit: Fed said neck sizing 9 months ago but we are just seeing it now.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

all fair points, im not disputing any of it. Just seems odd that Fed says neck sizing, yet Lee sells FL dies. Realistically we have alot of speculation and little concrete evidence of anything.

Roger that. Yes the discrepancy is weird and for now skeptism is merited till proof is in the pudding with reloading actually working.

It will be cool if it does.

 

[bnewt3]

Also weird, this video from 9 months ago shows him FL sizing.

 

[bnewt3]

Conflicting information is frustrating

 

[Tryin]

I dont know if there is a linear conversion but im sure Spoomer has a chart for it @bnewt3

Had to reach waaay back in the toolbox. . .

 

[MuleyFever]

It's like finding out wrestling isn't real.

 

[Dave_]

Get off my Lawn!!!

Haha I'm only 40 but sure. My only point is with the advancement of scopes and premium ammo who cares about a new cartridge that shoots a little flatter and faster. If you shoot competitive sure, but this is marketed to the western hunter...A new cartridge isn't going to help you kill more animals in the real world.

At the end of the day a company doesn't want you to buy a gun and use it forever, so they market to convince and manipulate every gearhead you need the newest thing to be successful. Of course it's America, and I'm all for innovation and if you want to spend your money go ahead. But this is the internet so why not put in my .02.

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[NMJM]

Sounds like it comes down to personal use factors. If you think this is just a new cartridge that doesn't really do anything new, you probably are not who this is designed for. The idea of taking a 22 or 24 inch barrel down to 16 inches and getting a similar performance is very appealing to people who hike a long way on steep angles through dense brush. Add a suppressor and you are compounding the advantages.
Like others have said these advantages come at a price but for certain uses that price may be well worth it.

 

[alexnelon]

Sounds like it comes down to personal use factors. If you think this is just a new cartridge that doesn't really do anything new, you probably are not who this is designed for. The idea of taking a 22 or 24 inch barrel down to 16 inches and getting a similar performance is very appealing to people who hike a long way on steep angles through dense brush. Add a suppressor and you are compounding the advantages.
Like others have said these advantages come at a price but for certain uses that price may be well worth it.

When they give me a short action .25 cal that will stack 5 in a mag and push a 130 grain at 2950 in a 16 inch barrel I’ll be all over it honestly.

I just don’t think a 7mm rocket ship makes sense.

 

[Bluefish]

YET, they've been very clear that reloading is coming.

Yeah for almost a year? If I was a manufacturer who was releasing a product with a claim like it’s reloadable, I would have that worked out before launch. Ie had dies lined up, reloading data, if a different process was needed, have it documented. The reloading claim seems more like vaporware to me.

The 277 sig does seem to be reloadable with several reports of wildcats using the brass. Imho this makes more sense, use brass where it’s needed and steel where it’s needed.

 

[cal30_sniper]

I don't understand all the pushback that 7BC has gotten in this community. It seems more like a groupthink of doing whatever the opposite that JVB recommends doing than objective consideration of what advantages a new look on old technology could bring to cartridge development across the board in coming decades.

Weird to see so many people dogging on a standard bolt face long action cartridge in 7mm when the 280AI seems to have attained almost cult like status doing the same thing.

Part of the advantage here seems to be that you don’t have to reload to take advantage of the higher than SAAMI pressure specs that hand loaders are so often leveraging in their special recipes. If you absolutely have to reload this, couldn’t you just use the available dies to form ‘06 brass cases and do it that way in a pinch (obviously without being able to take advantage of the higher pressure spec allowed by the alloy case).

New tech always comes with growing pains, but the open animosity for this cartridge seems to reside in the same logic garbage bin as the attacks on using 77TMKs in a .223 because they’re “too small” for big game.

 

[wind gypsy]

Yeah for almost a year? If I was a manufacturer who was releasing a product with a claim like it’s reloadable, I would have that worked out before launch. Ie had dies lined up, reloading data, if a different process was needed, have it documented. The reloading claim seems more like vaporware to me.

The 277 sig does seem to be reloadable with several reports of wildcats using the brass. Imho this makes more sense, use brass where it’s needed and steel where it’s needed.

Other than gas leak at the brass/steel junction cutting rings in chambers at that location in short order, yeah they are reloadable.

 

[bnewt3]

I just don’t think a 7mm rocket ship makes sense.

My thoughts as well, at least not for the debut cartridge.

 

[bnewt3]

Weird to see so many people dogging on a standard bolt face long action cartridge in 7mm when the 280AI seems to have attained almost cult like status doing the same thing.

Kinda seems like some people feel threatened by it?

I think there could be some validation for those feelings. If this takes off it will almost certainly take market share from 280AI, 7RM, 7PRC, probably also 270, maybe 300WM. Less market share means ammo companies will produce less, rifle companies will produce less.

But IDK, im cautiously optimistic about the idea of a 6.5, 6mm, 30, or 22.

 

[The Guide]

Of all the people posting on this thread, how many have actual shot a rifle in 7mm Backcountry? I wanted real world data so I bought a rifle and ammo. I've shot the rifle and other than the heavy trigger (heavy pull but no creep and sharp break), I have no complaints so far. I'm not going to tear the gun apart and adjust the trigger until after general season. After I get the trigger weight down, I'll shoot it some more and try and get some groups published. I also bought some factory ammo with the same bullets that are loaded for the 7mm Backcountry to test in my 7mm PRC and 280AI (24" barrels on both) to see how the competition (7mm PRC and 280AI) in a traditional brass case from the same manufacturer performed with those same bullets.

So far, I'm around $1400 into a gun and ammo because I don't trust anyone to give the real truth. Once I finish testing and shooting I should have a pretty good library of information on the 7mm Backcountry and will try and keep it updated as the cartridge matures.

Jay