What are your thoughts on using a Doobie instead of a sleeping bag?

[mavmskyb8]

There's a lot of great info on this site. I've been looking at all the posts on quilts vs bag, weight savings etc. Then I see info on the Doobie. I'll be hunting 20 days this September with a base camp, and spike camps. Hunting where ever the elk are, but guessing anywhere between 8000' & 10000' for spike camp. With the possibilities of temps in the 20's, and possible lower, is the doobie with a pad of 4.5R value going to be enough? I sleep warm with a wool cap. Tent will be a BPWD Luna 4. I'm trying not to take a stove.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

Cheers!
Bret

 

[welpro222]

I believe the Doobie has the same insulation fill as the Kifaru 20 degree slick bag, so I think 20 degree temps may be pushing it with the Doobie. Hopefully someone who has tried this setup will respond. I always like to test my setup in the winter at home outside before taking in the mountain where cold weather is expected. I would look into a quilt, I have heard mostly good things about them.

 

[SHTF]

Will one up you I use the new insulation Woobie on scouting trips and hot weeks I have no issue at all always have a high r value pad with my bivy


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[dotman]

I see no reason it wouldn't unless you get cold real easy.

 

[Lawnboi]

Iv used a doobie over a quite a few nights off my back, and out of the car.

It's the old style clima whatever combat so I don't know how the new insulation works.

The doobie and a beefy bivy (ID bugaboo ii) kept me warm down to around freezing. Any colder than that and it was not fun. And I'm a warm sleeper. I still use the doobie, but only if it's going to be over 40 degrees.

Though I cannot comment on the new doobie, I would absolutely not bring it if I was expecting lows in the 20s regardless of what I had for clothing.

I would love to test the new insulation. I actually like sleeping with the doobie in mild weather

 

[COlineman78]

I have taken a Woobie down to 40 with gym shorts and a t-shirt. I think a Doobie would be fine especially if you are willing to put on your puffy and merino bottoms. The only things it isn't great at are keeping it in the correct place (most quilts have straps that do this) and keeping your feet warm. If you're like me and sleeping in socks bugs you than this may be the deal breaker.

 

[mrbillbrown]

I tried an Arctic Woobie inside a bugaboo II bivy inside my 2 man dome tent last year and froze my arse off. About 10k', temps 20-30 at night, last week of Sept, and a big Agnes insulated air core pad. Started in merino top and bottoms and after 2 nights of freezing I had to wear a Sitka Kelvin jacket and pants on top of the merino to keep from shivering all night.


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[Where's Bruce?]

To answer your question, no. Get a 0* EE quilt and hoodlum with a high R value pad. Thank me later.

 

[sneaky]

To answer your question, no. Get a 0* EE quilt and hoodlum with a high R value pad. Thank me later.

He's SOL on that setup unless he already has that quilt. EE is 3 plus months out on orders. VIAM could get him a quilt pretty quick.

 

[marktole]

I had a Doobie when I was in the military and used the hell out of that thing and stayed very warm. I still have it and use it, however, I wouldn't dare try it down into the 20's. I also sleep colder though, your post made it sound like you slept pretty warm.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

He's SOL on that setup unless he already has that quilt. EE is 3 plus months out on orders. VIAM could get him a quilt pretty quick.

Only if he wants it new, I see em for sale used here and on hammock forum boards all the time. Bought 3 on this site in 7 months.

 

[justinspicher]

I say try it.

There's really no other way to know if it work for you unless you do.

You can ask six different folks on here what their opinion is and get twelve different answers and what else to try or do.

Good luck in figuring it out.

 

[oake]

I'll start by saying I don't have a ton of backcountry gear knowledge. But, this is exactly the set-up I used last year for the elk hunt I went on. Camped around 9000'. It was an early season hunt. I'll be using it again for sure.

 

[Tuscor]

My experience has been that the doobie is great for extra insulation, but not enough on its own in temperature that go below 0C (32F). I've been camping with my wife and I was just using the doobie and on a night where there was a hard frost I was bloody cold. My wife was in a -5C (23F) rated down bag and she was cold too, so it was obviously a chilly night (I was wearing full merino longjohns/shirt).

I'd say anything below +5C its probably going to be chilly, unless you pair with some warm clothes including a puffy jacket.

 

[mavmskyb8]

Thanks for all the great insight folks, I really appreciate it!

Cheers!

Bret

 

[welpro222]

I just got the newest doobie recently. The new apex model weighs in at 2lbs and 10oz, so it is near the same as the regular 20 degree slick bag. When I got it in the mail, the stuff sack is so big I thought I got the Artic version by mistake. I think the newest model would be warm enough for most, but at the weight it is might as well take the slick bag.

 

[LBFowler]

I have a DIY 6oz climashield quilt that is basically a doobie. I use it cause it's cheap and I want to beat on it to see how the insulation holds up, but I'm reaching for something else if I think it will be below freezing at all. Conventional wisdom puts 6oz of climashield at about a 30* rating, but that is with an efficient cut and good seal, neither of which a rectangular quilt really possess. my DIY quilt also has a cinchable footbox which I don't think the doobie really has.

you might be able to swing it but keep warm clothes close at hand.

 

[welpro222]

Test it during the winter first. I tested my sleep system during the winter when temps were similar to my hunting conditions and found out my 30 degree montbell spiral hugger wasn't gonna work for me. I know at the moment we're getting closer to hunting season and unless you have a large walk in freezer to test your gear, your stuck with what you have I guess.

 

[wasatchcomm]

i used my diy doobie on a overnight trip twice this year, it was down to 30* both nights, snow on the ground all around me.. first night i slept in my wool socks, prana pants, puffy jacket and wool beanie and a 3.2rv BA pad, i was sweating all night, had the blanket i made half on and off all night, second night i slept in shorts, long sleeve synthetic shirt, beanie and shorts, slept perfect all night, both nights were in my BPD luna6
i am a warm sleeper, so i rarely get cold, if you are a warm sleeper, i think you will be fine, especially since you will have a puffy and what not already..

 

[striker3]

I have used my old doobie down around freezing, but I have to sleep in my lost park parka and merino tops and bottoms with a high r pad.