Yeah nothing crazy. 3-6 mile pack in and outs tops. I don't do overnighter yet. Want something I can compress down good and use for a daybag with plenty of organization, but can also haul in some 15x, a spotter, some clothes, day food, and haul an animal out. I currently use a badlands superday and 2200. I don't like the 2200. The superday would be excellent if it had a frame. I also have $50 in Kuiu rewards so with a sale that really gets the price down. If I ever decide I want to do big long hunts, especially for elk or other larger game, I think an exo would be in my future. As is I do muley archery and am going to attempt pronghorn, thats it.