What Archery-Related Rabbit Hole Are You Into This Offseason?

I'm completely breaking down a compound bow for the first time. Riser and limbs are getting dipped. Cam swap. Making the custom that I've always wanted. Learning along the way. I'm really excited about the project.
 
I laughed when I saw your thread title....I think I've been down just about every rabbit hole in archery; 80# bows, heavy arrows, tweaking my fletching choice and orientation to death, probably 30 different BH's, skinny shafts, 5mm and 6mm, collars- and I'm sure I'm missing 20 more.

Now I shoot my recurve for some stuff....and my Reduced weight compound for some hunts. I don't get wrapped up in the minutia....though I will always continue to BH tuning and get my arrows perfectly straight.
What's your take on 4mm shafts Beendare or anyone else in Rokslide land? I've been shooting Easton Axis 5mm w/ 175 grains up front (468 grains total) for years and thinking of going lighter with less wind drag. I'm looking for faster for 3D and hunting and have never shot a 4mm arrow. Is there a benefit to a 4mm or is a 5mm Easton Axis worth tweeking on to get lighter?.............. in your opinion of course.
 
+1 for stabilizers. Also playing with a new sight.

Current setup is 12” bar up front with 5 oz of weight, looking to add a back bar probably 8” and then play with angles, and weights.

Current sight is a hogg-it 5 pin fixed. Picked up an option 4S from the classifieds here. Hoping to get some extra distance for long range practice. If I can start shooting groups at 90+ it will be a lot of fun and hopefully lead to fine tuning my form.

Need to build more arrows but not planning any changes to my setup from the last few years.
 
I dropped my draw length this year and so to compensate and make myself feel better I got a new bow that’s faster haha. Been happy so far with the change.

Also trying to get away without stabilizers/quivalizer. I liked shooting with the quivalizer but not the bulk and I just don’t like loading arrows from the wrong side. So far at 40 and under I haven’t seen a loss of accuracy, but I need to spend some more time with this setup and extend my range to know if I’ll stick with it. The cold bow challenge would be a good test for this.
 
@Solowhunter, I’m over 4mm shafts. I f’in despise half outs and I don’t feel like investing into glue in broadheads to bypass them when I have a decent stock of 5mm arrows and normal broadheads. I also feel like the nocks are weaker and most importantly, I’m not good enough to realize any accuracy gains.

I have some 300 spine axis long ranges that’ll probably never get used, if you wanna try those shoot me a pm and I’ll send you a 1/2 dozen for cheap so you can experiment.
 
What's your take on 4mm shafts Beendare or anyone else in Rokslide land? I've been shooting Easton Axis 5mm w/ 175 grains up front (468 grains total) for years and thinking of going lighter with less wind drag. I'm looking for faster for 3D and hunting and have never shot a 4mm arrow. Is there a benefit to a 4mm or is a 5mm Easton Axis worth tweeking on to get lighter?.............. in your opinion of course.

I’ve shot a couple different .166 over the years and I hate the halfout type system with a passion now that I’m shooting .204s. There maaay be some decrease in wind drift but if you’re hunting you’re probably standing in the wind and your pin float is increased enough I think it’s a wash.
I’m currently shooting Victory Rips right now. They work great and I like em, but hard to beat the simplicity and ease of a 246 arrow. I’d go back to them in a heartbeat and just might lol


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@Solowhunter, I’m over 4mm shafts. I f’in despise half outs and I don’t feel like investing into glue in broadheads to bypass them when I have a decent stock of 5mm arrows and normal broadheads. I also feel like the nocks are weaker and most importantly, I’m not good enough to realize any accuracy gains.

I have some 300 spine axis long ranges that’ll probably never get used, if you wanna try those shoot me a pm and I’ll send you a 1/2 dozen for cheap so you can experiment.
@NXTZ You about have me talked out of it........ I'm aware of the component pain in the #$% building the 4mm's can be. Regardless I'm interested in the shafts, I'll message you.
 
I’ve shot a couple different .166 over the years and I hate the halfout type system with a passion now that I’m shooting .204s. There maaay be some decrease in wind drift but if you’re hunting you’re probably standing in the wind and your pin float is increased enough I think it’s a wash.
I’m currently shooting Victory Rips right now. They work great and I like em, but hard to beat the simplicity and ease of a 246 arrow. I’d go back to them in a heartbeat and just might lol


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@silasbowhunter, Seems like building the 4mm arrows is a pain, how's the durability?

Those new Easton 5.0's look bad #$%.........
 
@silasbowhunter, Seems like building the 4mm arrows is a pain, how's the durability?

Those new Easton 5.0's look bad #$%.........
I was going to suggest Easton 5.0. Another buddy is in a similar predicament, trying to go lighter in the 5mm world, and he’s probably going to go with the 5.0. They are smaller O.D. than the previous Axis 5mm and lighter GPI. RIP TKO also seems like a good option, too.
 
I forced myself to switch from my Scott hand grip caliper release to a Carter 1st choice thumb release.


Wow.


I’ve been missing out for a long time. My accuracy just went through the roof.

I have the divorce official too….that caliper release was sold on eBay and dropped in the mail a week ago…lol
 
@silasbowhunter, Seems like building the 4mm arrows is a pain, how's the durability?

Those new Easton 5.0's look bad #$%.........

The 4mm are relatively tough, it’s hard to mess up a shaft but you WILL bend half outs and basically make that arrow useless unless you can shorten them and start over haha 3D target rods/stakes were my main cause.

Yeah the 5.0 looks great, I want to get a couple to try or I’ll get 10 or 25gr HIT from iron will for my next batch of Rips


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I was going to suggest Easton 5.0. Another buddy is in a similar predicament, trying to go lighter in the 5mm world, and he’s probably going to go with the 5.0. They are smaller O.D. than the previous Axis 5mm and lighter GPI. RIP TKO also seems like a good option, too.

I shoot the regular RIP arrows so they’re only .4gpi heavier than the Easton 5.0. I do like the look of the eastons and they don’t have the dumbass coating victory does haha


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i just had the Hamskea Peep System installed on my Hoyt RX7. Trying to figure out what size better suits me, the 3/32 or the 1/8. Really pleased on how easy i can switch them out.
 
What rabbit holes are people going down this offseason? I’m curious what guy/gals are doing to improve and any lessons learned?

Nothing too major for me this year. I’m sticking with the same arrow setup, and last year I spent a lot of time with the Garmin chronograph. What I am doing this offseason, though, is messing with different sight configurations (eg. less pins, 3 or 4, and smaller pins for longer yardages), tearing down my 5year old RevoltX down to the limbs and cleaning everything up, and trying different peeps for giggles.
Not much, but I’m shooting a new bow, new arrow setup, pretty much different everything this year. I have been shooting a nexus 4 the past couple years, with a quivalizer… this year I’m shooting a lift with their overpriced accessories. It’s the first mathews I’ve really liked since the chill r.

I will be switching the QAD for an epsilon, but besides that, nothing will change. I’m shooting a fixed 5 pin (custom mbg with all green pins, 20/30 .019, 40/50/60 .010… all green.

I’m shooting altra centrum 166’s, and I’m back to my favorite head as my primary (GK xl) i will also have a few mechs in the quiver that I probably won’t shoot. I’m thinking the T2, but also have some glue in Hyde’s, beasts, and reaper pro 1 3/8”, so I have options

I ditched the onnex click, and have a like mike 2, but also have a sole x click on order, whatever i decide as my favorite I will buy a second one as a backup

Arrow weight is going to be similar, I think my current is 508gr. Nothing too crazy, it was just time for a new bow, I don’t like a big valley like the nexus had

No real rabbit holes, but plenty of change. I’m hoping i keep liking the lift and keep it a few years, because I do better with familiar gear. I have a hard time keeping bows.

Since I bought the rytera alien x in 2009 and used it for 5 years, the longest I’ve kept a bow was 3 years (Mach 1) but besides that it’s been 1-2 years… I want to just be happy with what I have and keep it for several years.
 
What's your take on 4mm shafts Beendare or anyone else in Rokslide land?
4mm is a problem looking for a solution. There is a minor advantage on very long range shots in a cross wind with the 4mm but no other advantages, and multiple disadvantages.

The shafts are good...but to get them perfectly straight you have to buy the very expensive outsert systems. 5mm or 6mm is the way to go.
 
This rabbit trail. Working on printing my own vanes. This one is a 4-fletch x 1.75" and 23 grains as it sits. I have a number of other profiles I've created too with the shaft diameter, vane quantity and helical degree easily adjustable. I'm loving the results so far.

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