Western mountaineering sequoia vs feathers friends puffin vs ?????

[Cdpp880]

Ok I have been using a Sierra design 15 and it’s just not cutting it. I have taken it down to around 10 degrees but had to where everything I packed in to get down there. It is really only comfortable down to around 25. I’m looking for a bigger bag (I’m a side sleeper and toss and turn all night) that I can use down into single digits without having to where my puffys. I’m looking at the two listed in the title, but would be ok with another that fits my needs. As both are semi rectangular, both from solid company’s that seem to have true ratings without being crazy heavy. I’m leaning towards the FF puffin 10 degree as it’s quite a bit cheaper. What do y’all recommend

 

[EasilyExcited]

i haver the puffin in 20 degree and love it. not sure how cold i have slept in it but the creeks froze over so it was fairly cold

 

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[IdahoElk]

The Sequoia measures 66"/ 61" /48" 5 degree $745 (overfill at Hermits Hut) makes it -5 degree bag
The Puffin 64"/61"/48" 10 degree $519

I'm 5'10" 185bs. a side sleeper and run a Badger which is slightly smaller 65"/56"/39" than both and sleep just fine, either bag will be awesome.

 

[LASTINLINE]

Recently purchased a Sequoia not owning a true winter bag. i do have a bit of buyers remorse though... id say depends on how much room you want and think youll need.in researching some opt for the longer models to put clothing in the bottom or water bottles. some rather not have the extra space to heat up.for me i thought the Sequoia was just ok for shoulder room but im 6ft 240lbs. left me thinking maybe i shouldda went with the 6' 6 inch model or tried a Bristlecone at 69 inches wide .with the Sequoia i have issues with the top velcro flap on the top tends to get stuck in the zipper. you need to make sure its out of the way they say you need to do. Hermits hut rep says the material will soften up over time and not get in the way as much. not sure this is so acceptable at the price point.nothing like getting locked in your bag at 2am needing to hit the bathroom.the overfill is a great option but there are no weight markings filled in on the tag so i dont know what the base line is.had a minor stitching issues but they are fixing me up.best of luck with your search!

 

[sneaky]

I've never once had an issue with the flap on my Kodiak. Why zip it all the way past the flap if you are so concerned with it? Zip up to it then use the flap to do the rest, that's the quick easy fix. I can assure you, if you are having buyer's remorse on a WM bag, just wait til you try some lower end bags where the material along the whole zipper does that.

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[LASTINLINE]

the zipper is made to go to the top. not understanding your question. ive owned more than a few bags.most of them snag free. my first 2 times in the bag i got in and i zipped it up and zipped it down. both times only to get snagged and stuck.not good for a start. i researched it after the fact and found a few similar reviews. not sure if the Kodiak is similar in design with the velcro flap. Hermits hut rep said he has used this same exact bag a few years with similar issues but not to worry.he told me to manually make sure to hold the flap away. over time the gore windstopper softens up that it doesnt stay inline with the zipper and will happen less.the stitching issue i was told was a worn needle and repairable although at the price i shouldnt have to do quality control.i sent pictures about 10 minutes after i opened the box. they said they would fix it but it did take Western Mountaineering a week to get back to me after calls and sending the pictures again. the only remorse comes from picking the wrong size only because i have none to try locally and i trusted all the reviews on this site and others. at 6ft tall i feel like i should have went with the longer. not that it wouldnt work but i guess i like space. if you opt for the Gore Windstopper its a pain to stuff away but i understand. kinda like a giant potato chip bag. thats my limited Sequoia experience.

 

[sneaky]

the zipper is made to go to the top. not understanding your question. ive owned more than a few bags.most of them snag free. my first 2 times in the bag i got in and i zipped it up and zipped it down. both times only to get snagged and stuck.not good for a start. i researched it after the fact and found a few similar reviews. not sure if the Kodiak is similar in design with the velcro flap. Hermits hut rep said he has used this same exact bag a few years with similar issues but not to worry.he told me to manually make sure to hold the flap away. over time the gore windstopper softens up that it doesnt stay inline with the zipper and will happen less.the stitching issue i was told was a worn needle and repairable although at the price i shouldnt have to do quality control.i sent pictures about 10 minutes after i opened the box. they said they would fix it but it did take Western Mountaineering a week to get back to me after calls and sending the pictures again. the only remorse comes from picking the wrong size only because i have none to try locally and i trusted all the reviews on this site and others. at 6ft tall i feel like i should have went with the longer. not that it wouldnt work but i guess i like space. if you opt for the Gore Windstopper its a pain to stuff away but i understand. kinda like a giant potato chip bag. thats my limited Sequoia experience.

It wasn't a question. Don't zip it all the way to the very top. It's easy. No need to zip it past that flap. I hardly ever zip my Kodiak to the top and I see no need for a GWS down bag, that's the reason I went with the MF shell. Breathes better, quieter, still waterproof, less expensive. If I'm concerned enough about weather getting my down bag wet enough to need GWS , I'm going to take a synthetic bag.

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[LASTINLINE]

every bag ive owned zipped to the top without issue.dont think its a strange request to be able to zip it up and down without snags. the flap on this one tends to get stuck on the way down. just never encountered this on any other bag.thanks for your work around fix idea to stop before the flap but i wanna use it to the top. they make the zipper go to the top of the flap for reason. i pondered the shell material. i think i made the right choice for me. not so much worried about water as extra wind and draft protection. the overfill from Hermits sealed the deal for me.

 

[T28w]

Sorry sneaky but if I spent 800 on a bag and the best response is don’t use the zipper all the way to the top , and I have 3 much cheaper bags that don’t have that problem, I would be a little bummed also. People seem to put wm bags above and beyond everything else and the price correlates to that. Then when someone saves and spends that much money, they expect it to function, plain and simple.

 

[sneaky]

Sorry sneaky but if I spent 800 on a bag and the best response is don’t use the zipper all the way to the top , and I have 3 much cheaper bags that don’t have that problem, I would be a little bummed also. People seem to put wm bags above and beyond everything else and the price correlates to that. Then when someone saves and spends that much money, they expect it to function, plain and simple.

I'll reserve comment for what is most likely happening, I offered a short term solution, and for 99.999999999% of people who buy WM bags the zippers are fantastic. There's always that one. I've yet to find a cheaper damn bag from any manufacturer that has a better track record of ease of use or a snag proof zipper that works. If that extra inch of zipper travel bugs him that much he can sell it on here in a few minutes and be done with it, easiest fix of all I'd say.

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[bridgermgmt]

Ok I have been using a Sierra design 15 and it’s just not cutting it. I have taken it down to around 10 degrees but had to where everything I packed in to get down there. It is really only comfortable down to around 25. I’m looking for a bigger bag (I’m a side sleeper and toss and turn all night) that I can use down into single digits without having to where my puffys. I’m looking at the two listed in the title, but would be ok with another that fits my needs. As both are semi rectangular, both from solid company’s that seem to have true ratings without being crazy heavy. I’m leaning towards the FF puffin 10 degree as it’s quite a bit cheaper. What do y’all recommend

just want to mention that Sierra designs ratings have always been way off for me. I sleep like a sauna and I use a 20* bag for 40+. When I switched to my first western mountaineering, I did the same your thinking if doing, I went lower in temp. The end result was I sweated my butt off.

if you want to sleep well down to 10,20,etc. Both WM and FF quoted rating should be pretty safe. Maybe add subtract 5* Or so. And make sure you buy it in the correct size. To small, you’ll freeze. To big, you’ll freeze lol. that way your not packing a 10lb bag for October in Idaho or something like that.

 

[Cdpp880]

Yeah I new Sierra designs bags were not true to ratings when I got it. Just thought I would
Be more comfortable sleeping in my puffys than I am. The last three seasons I have had at least 3 nights where the temps got down into the low teens or single digits and I had to where all my clothes to sleep at all. I figured that if I get a true 5-10 degree bag I could sleep comfortably in the lower temps and just open it up a little if it’s warmer. Or just take the Sierra bag if it’s supposed to be warmer for the entire trip.