Weatherby is circling the toilet bowl

[Nhenry]

If one of the major gripes about WBY nowadays is cost to play, I'd say look at something like the 280 AI, which everyone fawns over (myself included; love that sombish). It's also pretty costly to get into. Ammo's expensive and rather unfindable at times and brass is priced similarly to popular WBY cartridges.

I have never owned a WBY, but have shot a few and I like them. I think the 6 lug is one of the better non-magnum actions on the market. I like the RPMs. I'd buy a Backcountry or High Country lefty if I had the cash.

Those are my two pennies.

Weatherby is nowhere near the end of their rope. They're doin good things, still.

 

[wyosam]

Lots of talk of heavy for caliber/high BC bullets making Weatherby irrelevant. Fact is, most game animals still fall at short/traditional range. At shorter range or what was considered a long shot not long ago (4-500), BC doesn’t matter much. Speed kills same as it did before the current trend. Not everyone needs/wants/should dial elevation and play super sniper. A fast and flat rifle with a max point blank that covers the range a hunter will take a shot on game is still a very effective choice.


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[Wyo_hntr]

Lots of talk of heavy for caliber/high BC bullets making Weatherby irrelevant. Fact is, most game animals still fall at short/traditional range. At shorter range or what was considered a long shot not long ago (4-500), BC doesn’t matter much. Speed kills same as it did before the current trend. Not everyone needs/wants/should dial elevation and play super sniper. A fast and flat rifle with a max point blank that covers the range a hunter will take a shot on game is still a very effective choice.


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If that's true, then all Weatherby cartridges are irrelevant, and always have been.

 

[RMB518]

What the hell. Weather is now producing and stocking PRC and Nosler ammo.

They really need to stock of there proprietary stuff before dabbling as a ammo dealer... something seems amiss up there in Sheridan.

Edit link corrected:

6.5 PRC - Weatherby, Inc.

The 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) was released in 2018. This was the birth of the PRC line-up, intended to compliment the 6.5 Creedmoor, the 6.5 PRC offers 200+ FPS faster than the CM. Weatherby is known for ballistics and velocity. Our offerings push the industry standards on both...

weatherby.com

And its somehow cheaper than the Weatherby calibers

 

[amassi]

What the hell. Weather is now producing and stocking PRC and Nosler ammo.

They really need to stock of there proprietary stuff before dabbling as a ammo dealer... something seems amiss up there in Sheridan.

Edit link corrected:

6.5 PRC - Weatherby, Inc.

The 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) was released in 2018. This was the birth of the PRC line-up, intended to compliment the 6.5 Creedmoor, the 6.5 PRC offers 200+ FPS faster than the CM. Weatherby is known for ballistics and velocity. Our offerings push the industry standards on both...

weatherby.com

And its somehow cheaper than the Weatherby calibers

They’re stocking non weatherby cartridge weatjerby branded Brass too.


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[RMB518]

Hmm... something is very wrong.

 

[Nhenry]

If that's true, then all Weatherby cartridges are irrelevant, and always have been.

You failed to realize his point. All of the Weatherby cartridges extend the range that you don't need to know exact yardage because they flatten out the trajectory.

 

[Shō[t]gun]

You failed to realize his point. All of the Weatherby cartridges extend the range that you don't need to know exact yardage because they flatten out the trajectory.

BDC reticles fixed the MPBR problem better than excessive velocity and recoil did though.

 

[Nhenry]

BDC reticles fixed the MPBR problem better than excessive velocity and recoil did though.

Only if you know the range. Sometimes an animal is a lot further than you guess, and not everyone has a range finder that works all the time.

Plus, muzzle brakes and other recoil mitigating devices exist.

 

[Shō[t]gun]

Only if you know the range. Sometimes an animal is a lot further than you guess,

It's a better solution to the same problem, also works a couple hundred yards further too. MPBR still requires a general yardage guess at the far end of the effective range.

and not everyone has a range finder that works all the time.

Insert unnecessary Vortex bashing here lol.

 

[Wyo_hntr]

You failed to realize his point. All of the Weatherby cartridges extend the range that you don't need to know exact yardage because they flatten out the trajectory.

His point was most people don't shoot far enough for it to matter. Plus add in the fact that a majority of Weatherby shooters believe they can "zero" their rifle at 300yds, it definitely doesn't matter.

If you like high cost, lack of availability, high recoil, Weatherby cartridges and rifles are for you. And that's cool.

 

[Shō[t]gun]

The new Fudd is a kid with a plastic chassis, camo rifle and a carbon fiber barrel. He is shooting a fancy PRC cartridge and Hornady ELD-X, a hushin flatbill and a full kit of Firstlite. He will take any shot from 100-800 yards though the range he zero'd his rifle on only goes to 100. He has never practiced long range shooting but he has watched enough youtube. besides if he misses his first shot he will just walk the rest of his shots in.

Theres also the Fudd-hybrid like the Aram-fluencer. He looks like the classic Fudd on the outside, but follows the teachings of the new fudds. Quite the spectacle.

 

[Dirtbag]

Weatherby isn't doing everything right by a long shot, but calling the classics irrelevant is mis-guided in my opinion.

I'm a hunter first and foremost. Hunting is dynamic and Weatherby cartridges are forgiving. I'm pretty good estimating ranges out to about 450. I like having the ability to "point and shoot" out to 400, without needing to worry about ranging, figuring out more holdover or dialing. Something I can get with a .240 Weatherby or .257. Not so much with a 6.5 PRC.

But its just my findings and opinion, yours may differ and thats what makes all this fun.

 

[RMB518]

Weatherby is killing its own classics!

I love my 270wtby but even Weatherby is no longer regularly producing ammo for it.

 

[Shō[t]gun]

Weatherby isn't doing everything right by a long shot, but calling the classics irrelevant is mis-guided in my opinion.

I'm a hunter first and foremost. Hunting is dynamic and Weatherby cartridges are forgiving. I'm pretty good estimating ranges out to about 450. I like having the ability to "point and shoot" out to 400, without needing to worry about ranging, figuring out more holdover or dialing. Something I can get with a .240 Weatherby or .257. Not so much with a 6.5 PRC.

I agree to a point, but a lot of people miscalculate the effective "point and shoot" distance. My argument is at the end of that range, which is easy to misjudge in the field. Looking at Wby's ammo for a 240, zero'd at 300 its 9" low at 400. Aiming in the middle to 400 covers spine to brisket on a deer without introducing any other variables. I just can't get on board that excessive speed is the best option for a quick shot over a guessed range and BDC reticle or free custom turret (tape and pen), or just taking an extra couple seconds to pull the RF out of the pouch and take an ethical shot.

 

[Dirtbag]

I agree to a point, but a lot of people miscalculate the effective "point and shoot" distance. My argument is at the end of that range, which is easy to misjudge in the field. Looking at Wby's ammo for a 240, zero'd at 300 its 9" low at 400. Aiming in the middle to 400 covers spine to brisket on a deer without introducing any other variables. I just can't get on board that excessive speed is the best option for a quick shot over a guessed range and BDC reticle or free custom turret (tape and pen), or just taking an extra couple seconds to pull the RF out of the pouch and take an ethical shot.

You are definitely right. We are talking mere inches all said and done.

 

[AkRyan]

Weatherby is doing just fine I asure you! There high end rifles sell very well and they have a good following across the pond. Our market is big but the European market can't be ignored. Saying Weatherby is sinking is like saying Blaser isn't going to survive because you don't see them here.

 

[AkRyan]

Weatherby is doing just fine I asure you! There high end rifles sell very well and they have a good following across the pond. Our market is big but the European market can't be ignored. Saying Weatherby is sinking is like saying Blaser isn't going to survive because you don't see them here.

There focus on ELR is based on what our customers are asking for. Blame Hornady for this after they came out with the creedmoor and had to use bc and range to justify its purpose. Also the European market hunts alot of open land and not many large game animals so they prefer smaller fast bullets or large for caliber not much in between.

 

[Formidilosus]

I'm a hunter first and foremost. Hunting is dynamic and Weatherby cartridges are forgiving. I'm pretty good estimating ranges out to about 450. I like having the ability to "point and shoot" out to 400, without needing to worry about ranging, figuring out more holdover or dialing. Something I can get with a .240 Weatherby or .257. Not so much with a 6.5 PRC.

Yes you can. A 100gr bullet in a 6.5 PRC is pushing 3,600fps. That’s how Weatherby gets there- light, low BC bullets with 60+ grains of powder.

 

[Formidilosus]

There focus on ELR is based on what our customers are asking for.

Do you work for Weatherby?

Blame Hornady for this after they came out with the creedmoor and had to use bc and range to justify its purpose. Also the European market hunts alot of open land and not many large game animals so they prefer smaller fast bullets or large for caliber not much in between.

Justify its purpose?