Views on Hunting w/Dogs

[ROJO23]

1. Do you think hunting with hounds for legal game is ethical?
Living in VA dog hunting is very big here. I typically only go on 2-3 dog hunt days a season. I prefer to still hunting.
Of the people here against dog hunting is because a few bad apples spoil it for everyone. Some people line up a piece of property and then drop off their dogs. The dogs run from one piece of property to another, running some of the deer away. Still hunters typically do not like dog hunting.

2. What is your strongest reason in support of your answer?
if the state feels it is a legal way to hunt, I do not want to affect anyone's way to enjoy the sport.

3. Have you ever been on or a part of a hunt using hounds?
white tail, rabbit

4. Do you think using dogs for bird hunting is ethical?
Absolutely

5. What, if any, distinction do you see between the two? none

 

[DenverCountryBoy]

1. It can be. It can also be unethical.

2. I want to give the game I hunt a quick, efficient death. Pointers can help achieve that. Bayers would not.

3. No
4. Yes
5. In most circumstances, birds need to be flushed to be hunted. Dogs are a means to make flushing easier. Large game does not need to be chased down to successfully be hunted. The potential for the meat quality to be degraded due to the animal being stressed before being killed does not appeal to me.

Also what happens to game on public land if people were to use dogs? It seems to me that more of the large game would get pushed off public and on to private.

 

[mproberts]

Also what happens to game on public land if people were to use dogs? It seems to me that more of the large game would get pushed off public and on to private.

That is exactly what happens and in the counties in my home state that do allow deer drives it literally shuts down the deer season for everyone else. Thankfully there are some counties that don't allow it. Honestly they need to change the laws so that dog hunting is only allowed towards the end of firearms season, at least give still hunters a chance to hunt beforehand. Currently our firearms season lasts roughly 2 months, and they start running dogs day 1, and worst off you sometimes have to deal with the trail runs they do during bow season. It's incredibly annoying to have dogs running all over the place for a day or more, some of these guys just release completely untrained dogs, and it can take them days sometimes to get them all back. You literally see dogs just wandering the roads, quite a few are hit every season. I know guys/clubs that do it the right way, treat their dogs right and run effectively on large leases they have without much interference to others, but I know a lot more that don't do that.

 

[Poser]

Hunting Swamp Rabbits with dogs is the one of the most fun forms of hunting I can think of.

Humans have been hunting with dogs for at least 10,000 years and likely something closer to 30 to 40,000 years. Tradition? Absolutely.

Deer-dogging ain’t my favorite thing to encounter, but I have shared the woods with deer hounds man before. I’m completely fine with it when it’s done on large hunting club properties.

I follow some hunters on IG who hound stags in Scandinavian countries.

I’ve been around bear hounds quite a bit and I find it appropriate in certain habitat.

For hog hunting, it’s quite ideal and effective. In some areas, it’s the only way to kill hogs.

Duck hunting? Yes, please.

Coon Hunting? yes, please.

Squirrel Hunting? Yes, please.

Bird hunting? Yes, please.

If you never hunted with dogs at all, you’re really missing out as it’s a unique relationship that runs tens of thousands of years deep.

 

[jspradley]

My only hang ups against hunting with dogs are placing the dogs in danger and/or if the hunting is done in a manner that prolongs the suffering of the prey (ie running it to exhaustion) but if those two are mitigated as much as possible then I'm all for it

 

[FLAK]

I've done it a fair number of times. I don't care for it.

 

[Glendon Mullins]

this is the most civil conversation on hunting with dogs I have ever seen on a forum, plenty of varying opinions, no name calling etc. kudos to the forum members here!

 

[Idahomnts]

Yes
Walk-in up on a point and makin meat,prettyfun
Yes
Yes
And thought it was all bird hunting related lol ... but agree with op on answer got a bad case of chukaondabrain

 

[juan trueno]

I train retrievers for and run them in field trials. I don’t hunt with dogs near as much as I used to but I pretend to every day. Where I deer hunt on a WMA in The Coastal Empire, just south of the Hostess City there were a couple deer dog clubs that lost there leases because there dogs were all over the WMA- and the amount of conflict between the dog guys and the still hunters in the WMA was legendary. I didn’t love dealing with that aspect of things- but the reality is that the older deer pressured by dogs start hitting the exit as soon as they hear tailgates drop, and I capaitalized on nice bucks just by knowing how to play that pressure.

Me and buddies of mine use to push the heads between soybean fields with a couple plotts for deer around Christmas for a while. Other than birds though, hogs is what I’ve hunted the most with dogs. Then coons second most. I have no issue using pit bulldogs for catching hogs. I’m looking forward to hunting a lion in AZ with an old army buddy and his friends who are houndsmen. Love the pictures I get from them each year


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