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dvm_hunter

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Any of you guys have video equipment?? I'm interested in picking some stuff up once we move to Colorado to video our hunting, fishing, and camping trips. I've been looking at some DSLR's and regular video cameras. Curious if anyone is into it and has recommendations on video cameras that are better than others in low light situations.
 
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Yeah, I've watched those. My wife has a Canon 80D, but I was kind of curious about more traditional video camera or maybe a higher end DLSR. I've seen the one he uses and the episode on what Aron uses but Aron doesn't use his for video as far as I'm aware. I've been looking at the Sony EX1r and the Sony Z100 was hoping some of the guys here may have used them. You can find reviews online, but who knows if the person is legit or full of crap.
 

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I enjoy running video equipment. I have a Canon G30 that does pretty good in low light. It has recently been replaced by the G40. Probably the best video cameras are the new Sony's with the 1" sensor. The video cameras are still not as good as a DSLR in low light or picture quality. I have a Panasonic GH4 that does way better in low light with the right lens. It also takes great pictures. I like using 4K because you can crop and pan in post and still maintain full HD resolution. If you really want to get great results in low light the Sony A7SII or A7RII are very good but the lenses are big and expensive and the battery life isn't that good. A good system to start with would be a Panasonic G7 with a 25mm 1.8 lens and their 14-140mm lens with the Rode video micro. I had a Canon DSLR and sold it soon after I bought the Panasonic. The video quality is much better on the Panasonics, plus they have better video features.
 
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dvm_hunter

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It looks like for what I'm looking to do and the general low-light situations that entails the Sony a7Sii or the Sony FS7 is the way to go. Problem is the FS7 is like $10k so it's out the window. I'm leaning towards the a7Sii with the 55mm f1.8, and the 70-200 f2.8 for right now.
 
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dvm_hunter

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all of the footage I've seen with that body and those lenses look legit. It takes good stills as well, obviously not as good as the a7rii, but better than i'm capable of at this moment.
 
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I enjoy running video equipment. I have a Canon G30 that does pretty good in low light. It has recently been replaced by the G40. Probably the best video cameras are the new Sony's with the 1" sensor. The video cameras are still not as good as a DSLR in low light or picture quality. I have a Panasonic GH4 that does way better in low light with the right lens. It also takes great pictures. I like using 4K because you can crop and pan in post and still maintain full HD resolution. If you really want to get great results in low light the Sony A7SII or A7RII are very good but the lenses are big and expensive and the battery life isn't that good. A good system to start with would be a Panasonic G7 with a 25mm 1.8 lens and their 14-140mm lens with the Rode video micro. I had a Canon DSLR and sold it soon after I bought the Panasonic. The video quality is much better on the Panasonics, plus they have better video features.

I 2nd the G30/40s for a solo deal, they are easier than a DSLR and you dont have to worry about a lens. That being said I shoot a D7 and Contour cameras. I had a G40, but it got stolen at Shot Show. Don't under estimate the power of a POV camera also they are easy cheap and small. Contour Roam is water proof without a case and fairly cheap.

Get a flip screen for a DSLR too, makes focusing for self filming easier as well. Im a fan of DSLR cameras personally, I can shoot still and then video without grabbing another camera. Dont forget to get a good tripod as well or at least a monopod.

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Your wife has an 80D!?!
Thats a brand spanking new DSLR with fantastic video capabilities.
Just use that.
In MP4 it will shoot 60 FPS at 1920X1080 res.

Its not a 4K camera, but as far as low light goes, you have options. Expensive options.
Typical video cameras come with small sensors that perform poorly in low light.
The DSLR option gives you better low light performance, but a lower range of options.

Typically video cameras come with 20X zoom lenses, and features that allow for smooth operation and audio options.

Typically DSLR cameras must be manually zoomed with a lens that has a focal length range. Not as smooth, nor as much range.
To get to 20X you would have to have a very large 800mm lens on the DSLR. Very expensive.

So, to try to compare them is not really doable.

Video cameras are great for video, its what they do. DSLR cameras can do video, but they don't often has the options and ranges of video cameras.
 
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dvm_hunter

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Your wife has an 80D!?!
Thats a brand spanking new DSLR with fantastic video capabilities.
Just use that.
In MP4 it will shoot 60 FPS at 1920X1080 res.

Its not a 4K camera, but as far as low light goes, you have options. Expensive options.
Typical video cameras come with small sensors that perform poorly in low light.
The DSLR option gives you better low light performance, but a lower range of options.

Typically video cameras come with 20X zoom lenses, and features that allow for smooth operation and audio options.

Typically DSLR cameras must be manually zoomed with a lens that has a focal length range. Not as smooth, nor as much range.
To get to 20X you would have to have a very large 800mm lens on the DSLR. Very expensive.

So, to try to compare them is not really doable.

Video cameras are great for video, its what they do. DSLR cameras can do video, but they don't often has the options and ranges of video cameras.

The 80D is not up to snuff in low light situations. Tried to capture video on a pig hunt and it was grainier than whole grain toast. The a7Sii puts the 80D to shame in low light and holds it's on shooting stills. I have two of the GoPro Hero3 Black edition that I used to record while I was kayak fishing, that i planned to use for a second view.
 
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dvm_hunter

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The 80D is not up to snuff in low light situations. Tried to capture video on a pig hunt and it was grainier than whole grain toast. The a7Sii puts the 80D to shame in low light and holds it's on shooting stills. I have two of the GoPro Hero3 Black edition that I used to record while I was kayak fishing, that i planned to use for a second view.

well, that makes a lot of sense now. It's a 60D, maybe I should've put my contacts in when I was looking at it the other day. I read your post again, Cindy, and I was thinking we were talking about two different cameras cause it didn't shoot video for crap... well, we were :eek: whoops.
 
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