UT Fires

[mfllood3800]

These are some I took all from at house

 

[mfllood3800]

USFS is saying 0 % contained, however they have all towns secured from the 15 to the 70 to the 89 and 20. Contained means they are satisfied with their contingency lines. Due to the dryness and speed this fire displayed, they won't claim anything until they know. Good crews on it but wow. My neighbor called it in early afternoon. I didn't know that but saw smoke and immediately drove up where it was and EMS were on scene blocking road. It should've came towards town and they would've had it handled. Instead it turned and ran straight up Drainage South of Baker Canyon towards Hi-low summer homes, and Betenson Flats. And I mean it ran. That's when we locals realized what we escaped for decades, was our turn. The entire mountain was touched, but not torched. How ever it will not be the same in my lifetime or anyone reading this. Funny cause the 3 bulls in OG post, I called the long narrow front guy Rino. As long as they stayed near Big Flat they're ok. Oh by the way OG I think your spike unit by BJF survived in some areas as well. It did go all the way up to Blue lake though. Even climbed Delano and over towards Bullion one of the best elk units in the state.

 

[Uncle Goonie]

3 firefighters killed, 2 injured while tackling wildfires on the Colorado-Utah border

Three firefighters have died and two were injured while battling fires on the Colorado-Utah border. The U.S.

apnews.com

3 firefighters killed, 2 injured, prayers sent to the families, all the folks working the fire and all affected.

 

[Caseknife]

For a fire that started yesterday afternoon and is already close to 30,000 acres, the Snyder Fire is scary!

 

[Svivian]

For a fire that started yesterday afternoon and is already close to 30,000 acres, the Snyder Fire is scary!

You could see the wind laying it over yesterday. The plume of smoke grew like crazy.

A little bit of ash is falling in GJ as we speak

 

[575 ELK]

For anyone that says fire is good doesn’t live in wildfire country. We’ve been evacuated several times in the last few years. Never lost the ranch but all the national forest that we hunted for years is now a big burn scar. Prayers to the people close to this one!

 

[.204smokechaser]

Fire season is off to a rough start

 

[Hide Hunter]

For anyone that says fire is good doesn’t live in wildfire country. We’ve been evacuated several times in the last few years. Never lost the ranch but all the national forest that we hunted for years is now a big burn scar. Prayers to the people close to this one!

Which is why we need to do a national wide push to increase prescribed fire. Reduce the fuel loads.

 

[mfllood3800]

Which is why we need to do a national wide push to increase prescribed fire. Reduce the fuel loads.

I won't argue controlled burns aren't helpful. But they are only a band aid that doesn't fix the real issue -Tree Huggers Suing USFS. They took USFS to court every single time there were planning logging operations and thinning in thick timber as part of "Forest Conservation". Several sawmills eventually went out of business because legal battles shut down the logging they relied on. Eventually almost all logging stopped in the West. Then more stupid laws were passed in places making any clearing of old timber, even pine needles from your rain gutters or roof tops. Eventually overgrown forests had no choice but to let fires self-clean themselves. Then to try and minimize fire damage to home and property owners as well as State and Federal parks etc.... Prescribed burns became the main source of management. If we had a Fed Gov with a backbone they'd tell the liberal judges to stay out of their business of forest management and go eat spotted owls.

 

[Hide Hunter]

I won't argue controlled burns aren't helpful. But they are only a band aid that doesn't fix the real issue -Tree Huggers Suing USFS. They took USFS to court every single time there were planning logging operations and thinning in thick timber as part of "Forest Conservation". Several sawmills eventually went out of business because legal battles shut down the logging they relied on. Eventually almost all logging stopped in the West. Then more stupid laws were passed in places making any clearing of old timber, even pine needles from your rain gutters or roof tops. Eventually overgrown forests had no choice but to let fires self-clean themselves. Then to try and minimize fire damage to home and property owners as well as State and Federal parks etc.... Prescribed burns became the main source of management. If we had a Fed Gov with a backbone they'd tell the liberal judges to stay out of their business of forest management and go eat spotted owls.

Liberal judges are part of the federal government. They're appointed, part of the judicial branch and doing what the constitution empowers them to do. You should try leaving politics off this site, especially if you're just going to have such a simplified view of them.

 

[mfllood3800]

For anyone that says fire is good doesn’t live in wildfire country. We’ve been evacuated several times in the last few years. Never lost the ranch but all the national forest that we hunted for years is now a big burn scar. Prayers to the people close to this one!

Fires suck, I know first-hand. I live here in Beaver, Ut where the cottonwood fire just took out our entire mountain. But like money Fires themselves can be good or bad, depending how their used. I love a warm fire after a cold day of hunting on the Beaver in Dec. Fires in well managed forests would never cause the same damage to homes, destroy properties or create havoc, evacuations or closures as we're seeing in our Liberal America judicial system. Stupid activist judges allowed the elimination of USFS contracted logging with timber sold to sawmills as a way to stifle forest management. This happened years ago and ever since fires have been an issue. Add in Rural America building in wooded forest areas, and some say climate change and you have the real culprits. On Climate change, I feel the increase in humans add something, but not enough to be the primary blame for the increase in fires. You know what is??? The same chick wearing jeans who stopped the logging to manage forests -but are now blaming the weather.

 

[mfllood3800]

Liberal judges are part of the federal government. They're appointed, part of the judicial branch and doing what the constitution empowers them to do. You should try leaving politics off this site, especially if you're just going to have such a simplified view of them.

I mentioned these appointed judges in another post, judges appointed left leaning progressives to reduce the control of Gov involvement in national lands. So Nope -you can buy into the long-standing false narrative if you choose -I won't. I watched Brain Head in Utah burn when activist judges granted holds on NFS budgeted allocations of logging. The beetle from Nova scotia had gotten in there and started the issue. But logging was delayed and that mountain burned. It happened here in beaver the same way and all over federal forest lands. Where are the loggers and sawmills? Gone. Why? Your view is void of facts and you only choose to believe the narrative of liars you "read". Some of us have dealt with what the news articles refuse to print. You call it politics to make it "oh no political" But the truth is stated and you can do what you want with it.

 

[mfllood3800]

Liberal judges are part of the federal government. They're appointed, part of the judicial branch and doing what the constitution empowers them to do. You should try leaving politics off this site, especially if you're just going to have such a simplified view of them.

You say leave politics out of it, but it's politics that created the enormity of what we're experiencing. Your comment is equated to saying to gun control- we should keep politics out of it, when politics is the main problem of it. I bet you feel we should leave medicine and advancement procedures out of covid too. Your process of thinking needs an adjustment. You need to really see where certain problems truly lie.

 

[575 ELK]

They were doing a little controlled burn in NM a few years ago then the wind picked up and it burnt 341,000 acres and a huge number of homes burnt to the ground. All for logging but not the burns.

 

[mfllood3800]

They were doing a little controlled burn in NM a few years ago then the wind picked up and it burnt 341,000 acres and a huge number of homes burnt to the ground. All for logging but not the burns.

We have had controlled burns and wildfires here every year and have for decades. Some of the controlled burns got out of control. I personally believe they were a blessing maybe even a little on purpose but in a good way. To avoid lawsuits while knowing what has to happen in a specific part of the forest to prevent what we just went thru. almost all Western forests are well overdue for "feathered" drainage runs creating fast moving fires with no ability to control them= massive losses. Every fire that is a "scar" burn with snags left on ground become charcoal deposits for the next burn. Retardant does little because it only lands on top surface when air dropped. The grass and debris underneath is still like toilet paper. You are correct, Logging is what works best.

 

[HoytHntr4]

USFS is saying 0 % contained, however they have all towns secured from the 15 to the 70 to the 89 and 20. Contained means they are satisfied with their contingency lines. Due to the dryness and speed this fire displayed, they won't claim anything until they know. Good crews on it but wow. My neighbor called it in early afternoon. I didn't know that but saw smoke and immediately drove up where it was and EMS were on scene blocking road. It should've came towards town and they would've had it handled. Instead it turned and ran straight up Drainage South of Baker Canyon towards Hi-low summer homes, and Betenson Flats. And I mean it ran. That's when we locals realized what we escaped for decades, was our turn. The entire mountain was touched, but not torched. How ever it will not be the same in my lifetime or anyone reading this. Funny cause the 3 bulls in OG post, I called the long narrow front guy Rino. As long as they stayed near Big Flat they're ok. Oh by the way OG I think your spike unit by BJF survived in some areas as well. It did go all the way up to Blue lake though. Even climbed Delano and over towards Bullion one of the best elk units in the state.

Have you seen or heard how bad it torched the drainage below Blue Lake? Good to hear all of BJF didn’t completely burn down