Unpopular opinions

[PBBananaHammock]

Commonly held belief that I don’t agree with:

1) hunting brand clothing is better for hunting… Most hunters just don’t have a clue. Nearly anything outside of very, very niche needs are done better and cheaper by hiking, climbing, or etc companies. Hunting companies seem to take an old tec, integrate some gimmick like active carbon, and upsale the item with a camo finish. This is especially true for western backpack hunting.

2) scent control is important… Scent control for eastern white tail might as well be a virgin sacrifice followed by a rain dance.

3) rigid heavy boots are necessary in the west… totally false. Overbuilt boots are probably why liner socks even exist.

4) merino wool is warm when wet… total myth, wet is wet. Moisture conducts heat.

5) X2 for beef tasting better… no shade on game meat intended, but game meat tastes better because you have a relationship with it and worked for it. You have a bias. You eat it because you enjoy hunting. Take hunting out of the equation and it’s not as enjoyable. If you bought a $50 steak from a restaurant and got a game animal most would be very upset. Besides, the game animal you get is kind of a lottery on its flavor profile. I don’t know anyone buying beef who ranks “inconsistent flavor” as a selling point.

Awesome topic by the way.

 

[roadrunner]

One opinion that used to get shouted down and not so much anymore is that muzzle brakes are for looks, and if you're honest with yourself, they make you a worse shooter and kids definitely shouldn't shoot with a brake.

I shot my oryx on WSMR in NM a couple weekends ago using a 7mm WSM with a break.

First shot was quartering away, hit high just under the spine. 2nd shot was to finish it off at 50 yds after running only 100 or so before going down.

Finishing shot I heard the bullet smack it just under the ear where I was aiming.

Both shots were standing from shooting sticks (good luck finding a way to shoot prone most of the time).

And...I didn't even get concussed!!! Walked out just fine to the truck 3/4 mile away. No headache, no nausea.

Still no headache and no ringing in my ears.

Stupid muzzlebreaks

PS - I would've looked stupid walking around wearing a motorcycle helmet to protect me from the ELE shockwave...

 

[summs]

Nice quote. I think that is what Chris Bee said just before he wounded a buffalo to death. FOC is a Fear of Change without knowledge.

I cant tell if you are agreeing or not? Not sure where 'Chris bee' stands on FOC. Did he use a light weight arrow or heavy arrow and wound a buffalo?

So i will explain my thoughts a little more, for either agreeing or not with me.

I think FOC is one piece of the pie. Example: a prius (350gn total arrow weight) might be able to tow 10,000 lbs, but a diesel pickup (500 total arrow weight) would be a better option and an 18wheeler (650+ total arrow weight) would be overkill in the scenario of 'towing' 10,000lbs.

Use the right tool for the job. Prius could have the best and newest parts and all the bells and whistles, but still not to the right thing to use.

Far shots on tiny animals, lower arrow weight and lower foc. Shooting buffalo from close distance and need penetration, higher arrow weight and higher foc.

 

[Rich M]

“Don't pass on the first day what you would take on the last day”

This had to come from outfitters/guides that just want it to be over with and get clients out of camp after the tip is paid of course

I think it came from folks being remorseful over eating a tag or shooting a dink when they passed a nice buck/bull/whatever early on.

 

[Dennis]

I cant tell if you are agreeing or not? Not sure where 'Chris bee' stands on FOC. Did he use a light weight arrow or heavy arrow and wound a buffalo?

So i will explain my thoughts a little more, for either agreeing or not with me.

I think FOC is one piece of the pie. Example: a prius (350gn total arrow weight) might be able to tow 10,000 lbs, but a diesel pickup (500 total arrow weight) would be a better option and an 18wheeler (650+ total arrow weight) would be overkill in the scenario of 'towing' 10,000lbs.

Use the right tool for the job. Prius could have the best and newest parts and all the bells and whistles, but still not to the right thing to use.

Far shots on tiny animals, lower arrow weight and lower foc. Shooting buffalo from close distance and need penetration, higher arrow weight and higher foc.

Not sure how vehicle towing relates to arrow lethality, nor how that relates to FOC.

 

[Stearinlys]

"Once I sight my scope in, I never have to verify zero again..."

 

[MoeFaux]

Yeti coolers are for people with more money than brains. Unless your transporting human organs, $300 coolers are as wasteful as a sprinkler in the desert.

 

[Tahoma]

Yeti coolers are for people with more money than brains. Unless you’re transporting human organs, $300 coolers are as wasteful as a sprinkler in the desert.

That’s funny- one good cooler can be a game changer in my opinion. I pack my perishable camp food items frozen and vac sealed on ice in a 65qt yeti knockoff, and have had ice in the bottom of that cooler on day 9 of a September bow hunt. Drink cooler is a cheap ass Coleman 120qt that’s usually melted out (but still cold) by day 4 or 5.

I’m not willing to risk getting sick and ruining a hunt (or even wasting a day to go get ice in town) over a few bucks. Buying yeti coolers to transport game is insane though, just get ice when you stop for gas lol

 

[MoeFaux]

That’s funny- one good cooler can be a game changer in my opinion. I pack my perishable camp food items frozen and vac sealed on ice in a 65qt yeti knockoff, and have had ice in the bottom of that cooler on day 9 of a September bow hunt. Drink cooler is a cheap ass Coleman 120qt that’s usually melted out (but still cold) by day 4 or 5.

I’m not willing to risk getting sick and ruining a hunt (or even wasting a day to go get ice in town) over a few bucks. Buying yeti coolers to transport game is insane though, just get ice when you stop for gas lol

Simpler solution - don't take perishable foods camping.

 

[Tahoma]

Simpler solution - don't take perishable foods camping.

If I’m camping by the truck I’m eating well. Gotta bring a cooler anyways, you might as well do a little prep and bring it full

 

[EJFS]

R3

Seems like a marketing scheme to sell more stuff at the expense of crowding and limiting opportunity. I'm of the "Hunt Quietly" mindset

 

[rabbithuntr]

A couple of my unpopular opinions…

Wide is the gate that leads to destruction

22lr is great for CC

 

[Davyalabama]

A couple of my unpopular opinions…

Wide is the gate that leads to destruction

22lr is great for CC

People really think a 22lr isn't right for critter control, that is really an unpopular opinion? Since they are afraid of recoil, I guess the .22 is too much for them too, they want you to shoot a pellet gun or bb gun? Oh my goodness people.

They want you to shoot a .223/22-250/6 or 6.5mm, because that is their favorite "match" bullet? They want to see how destructive it is and prove their points? Yeah, show me how destructive it is on that coon caught in a dog proof or coyote caught in a snare while you're standing a foot away. Ok, I'll stop the factiousness ------ for now.

 

[MoeFaux]

People really think a 22lr isn't right for critter control, that is really an unpopular opinion? Since they are afraid of recoil, I guess the .22 is too much for them too, they want you to shoot a pellet gun or bb gun? Oh my goodness people.

They want you to shoot a .223/22-250/6 or 6.5mm, because that is their favorite "match" bullet? They want to see how destructive it is and prove their points? Yeah, show me how destructive it is on that coon caught in a dog proof or coyote caught in a snare while you're standing a foot away. Ok, I'll stop the factiousness ------ for now.

I assumed "CC" meant Concealed Carry. Which was it, @rabbithuntr?

 

[rabbithuntr]

I assumed "CC" meant Concealed Carry. Which was it, @rabbithuntr?

Yes I meant concealed carry, I think @Davyalabama knew that and was joking around, when he said he was being facetious.

 

[Danny Hoey]

Outdoor performance supplements are a waste of time and money.

Those companies stroke your ego by telling you how badass you are hiking mountains, chasing animals, carrying heavy packs...just straight warriors of the hills!!! Since you are such a beast, you need something special to reload your body for the next day. Regular water and oatmeal isn't gonna work, you need some god damn aminos to sprinkle on that shit!! You need some nootropics to stay super sharp! In the name of President Comacho you need electrolytes!!!!

 

[jayhawk]

What are some commonly held beliefs in the hunting world that you don’t agree with?

Personally I’ve always thought that “buy the best glass you can afford” was just clever marketing by optics companies. Mid range glass is perfectly suitable for almost everyone and can save you thousands of dollars you can spend on tags or other gear

Yup. For me though it seems like a law of diminishing returns. I can see a world of difference between $200 and $1000 glass, but can’t see much between $1000 and $3000.

 

[ezwy]

Outdoor performance supplements are a waste of time and money.

Those companies stroke your ego by telling you how badass you are hiking mountains, chasing animals, carrying heavy packs...just straight warriors of the hills!!! Since you are such a beast, you need something special to reload your body for the next day. Regular water and oatmeal isn't gonna work, you need some god damn aminos to sprinkle on that shit!! You need some nootropics to stay super sharp! In the name of President Comacho you need electrolytes!!!!

I agree with you, but....., if they taste good and are easy to pack as a powder, I'm taking some.

 

[Huntindog45]

A couple of my unpopular opinions…

Wide is the gate that leads to destruction

22lr is great for CC

my grandfather grew up in southern Utah and probably killed more (and bigger) deer with a .300 savage with open sites, (and then later a 4x weaver scope) than most people on here will ever dream of but the one set of antlers of his that I still have hanging in my garage is a 36" 6x7 that he killed with a .22 LR because he forgot his .300 that day. And yes we still have the .300 savage and have killed deer with it ourselves.

 

[Davyalabama]

Gotta have some fun, it's cold outside today, I can't spray weeds, I don't feel like grabbing a shovel and digging a trench for wire that needs run, it's too wet to cut the old growth down with the tractor or zero turn, and the wife isn't home to play with her, and I haven't felt like setting out traps and running them everyday.

Why not mess with some of you? CC concealed carry or critter control. Concealed carry is a given, right now my mind is own critter control, but my attitude isn't.

If one's attitude and persistence isn't there, not much else matters.