Unit 22 North AZ

[Gunnersdad49]

The .340 pushes my 210 grain Partitions just under 3300 fps, so I’m not too worried about energy at 500 yards. It should be somewhere close to 2107 foot pounds at the target.

I’m a fan of getting close, and would prefer to take the shortest shot possible. It minimizes variables and reduces the potential for something bad to happen.

 

[Gila]

From the ballistics manual:

"The 210 grain Nosler Partition was designed for use on Elk sized game and at .340 velocities, kills can be spectacular out to moderate ranges on mid to larger bodied deer. Maximum effective range for this load in rifles with suitable long range optics is around 675 yards however shot placement is critical at this range and can be difficult to achieve relative to wind drift. To this end, an effective range of around 450 yards can be more realistic."

 

[Gunnersdad49]

From the ballistics manual:

"The 210 grain Nosler Partition was designed for use on Elk sized game and at .340 velocities, kills can be spectacular out to moderate ranges on mid to larger bodied deer. Maximum effective range for this load in rifles with suitable long range optics is around 675 yards however shot placement is critical at this range and can be difficult to achieve relative to wind drift. To this end, an effective range of around 450 yards can be more realistic."

I’m not quite sure how this turned into a ballistics thread, or an “I’m right and you are wrong” thread, but I’ll play along while the laundry dries.

The components of making a kill on a game animal are; shot placement, bullet velocity, bullet construction, and bullet weight. I think most people can agree on that, so I’ll move forward with the discussion from there with that assumption.

Further, I’ll assume that the 210 grain Nosler Partition moving at 2125 feet per second at the target, producing over 2100 foot pounds of energy would be considered acceptable by any ethical elk hunter as a lethal combination.

So that leaves shot placement. If a person can effectively shoot at any given range under field conditions, with a rifle and load capable of meeting the above criteria for mass, sectional density, construction, expansion, etc, why would a sentence in a book make that suddenly unethical?

Your ( I’m guessing here) .270 with a 3100 fps 130 grainer carries less energy than this at 165 yards.

So, if a person can make the shot, wants to make the shot, and has the equipment to do it, a sentence in a manual that is one man’s opinion, has squat to do with ethics or lethality.

Cheers

 

[Gila]

I wasn't trying to say who was right or who was wrong. When I see that people are trying to suggest that a person would have to take a longer shot than they should be taking then I question it. All I intend to do here is to provide enough information so folks can make a more informed decision. Either a person is going to take an ethical shot on a game animal or they are not. Good luck on your hunt. Sounds like you are going to need all you can get.

 

[PowellSixO]

I killed my first branch antlered bull in 22n. I killed on the first day. There are a lot of elk in the unit, but big bulls are hard to find. I've been back in there helping people, and we've killed sub 300" bulls. But there are bigger bulls in the unit. Practice, and become proficient in 500 yard shots. Being able to shoot 500 will help your odds drastically. It's a fun hunt, and with your guide choice you should be able to harvest a 260-290 6x6. It is thick, as others have stated, and there is a lot of steep terrain. Being in good shape will also help your hunt greatly.

 

[Paul B]

Here is a 22N shed I picked up a few weeks ago...

 

[Str8shot]

Be prepared to see a lot of raghorns. Wouldn’t of wasted the money on a guide for that hunt but it’s AZ so you might get lucky.

 

[duckhunter175]

@Wildatheart how did your hunt go?! Pics/stories and review of Steve Chappell's outfit?

 

[Sobrbiker]

I attach a wind meter to my phone and point it in the direction of the animal to get windage.

Everything else sounded pretty good, but you lost me there...


But back to the topic, I’d like to hear how OP’s hunt turned out...