UM/S2H/Suppressors/Scopes and More!

@Brontosaurus

Right can is new, unfired. Top can is 10 rounds of 300 rum at normal people’s group shooting pace- 1-2 minutes for all ten. Left can is 100 rounds of 300 RUM loaded and fired back to back very quickly with no cool down.

To put this in perspective- almost all “lightweight” hunting cans won’t survive a fraction of those rounds without catastrophically failing- as in Scythe level destruction.
Ryan needs to offer up his Scythe to join in alongside one of these Whisper Pickle sessions. 💁🏻‍♂️ @Ryan Avery
For the people.

If he won’t, I’d send mine down in trade for a UM. 😆
 
@Formidilosus

Is there any plan to add a brake on the UM can? I have harvester on my 7 PRC and it does help a good bit over a can without a brake. I know on non magnum cartridges a suppressor w/brake is just extra weight

I ultimately would plan on 2 more cans and both i want to be a reflex type can like the UM or AB
 
Making any changes based on this test?


No. A 10.5 oz, 4” in front of muzzle, 1.5” diameter can that does not become a lethal implement because it blows apart on a 20” barrel 300 rum fired 100 times in a row… there is nothing left to fix.


Ryan needs to offer up his Scythe to join in alongside one of these Whisper Pickle sessions. 💁🏻‍♂️ @Ryan Avery
For the people.

If he won’t, I’d send mine down in trade for a UM. 😆

Already being done. Would have happened yesterday but Ryan didn’t bring it, and I didn’t bring a DD STi. We’re not going to destroy a bunch of cans, but they do want to see and know the different between them.



@Formidilosus

Is there any plan to add a brake on the UM can? I have harvester on my 7 PRC and it does help a good bit over a can without a brake. I know on non magnum cartridges a suppressor w/brake is just extra weight

I ultimately would plan on 2 more cans and both i want to be a reflex type can like the UM or AB

There will be a can made for PRS primarily that will have a brake. It will be OTB, but I do not believe it will be the OG can above with a brake added.
 
I'm curious why UM went with 1.5" diameter which seems to be on the thin side compared with other recently developed suppressors.
 
We are planning on releasing a version of the US-OG with a cap. US-OGC. probably going to be a little bit longer and a little bit heavier. We had a bravo anchor brake in the shop and we made it fit for testing purposes. SRS is going to be making brakes for suppressors like ours! View attachment 873016

Sweet! Now I will probably be needing 2! Side ports only? Looked like quite a bit of dust blew up from that brake?
I missed this

Definitely need an indexable direction brake. I was shooting from the ground a few weekends back and my PRC was throwing all kinds of dirt in my face due to wind. Made it difficult to stay in the scope post trigger pull BUT i'm glad to see this is in the works
 
We will have all of this spelled out once we are through destructive testing.

First, my hat's off to you for being open and willing to post in a forum like this. And I hope that you are successful with this product.

Regarding the quote above: Destructive testing, or endurance testing? Or both?

And while I got your ear...

There have been several bad assumptions and technically inaccurate statements made in this thread. I'm not interested in pointing fingers, but perhaps we can start from the beginning?

  1. Was CFD analysis done? In-house or outsourced? Any correlations done with experimental data?
  2. Was stress analysis done? In-house or outsourced?
  3. How are the noise data processed and analyzed? Redneck measurements w/fancy equipment? Or trained, qualified, and competent experimentalist/analyst?

Feel free to PM if you'd like.
 
Based on the Tire Protection device, great use by the way, I might suggest screwing a piece of horse stall mat to the shoot through tire and cut a hole just large enough for can and scope to see through.

Considering this is above and beyond the testing and safety procedures that may or may not have happened with a lawnmower muffler and a Russian 22 lr trainer in the early 90’s. I would state UM is doing very well with the testing.
 
  1. Was CFD analysis done? In-house or outsourced? Any correlations done with experimental data?
  2. Was stress analysis done? In-house or outsourced?
Who cares when you have the end product to test.

These are just ways to guess at testing outcomes with less investment and reduced trial and error, but should still be confirmed through actual testing. So, once actuall testing is done, worrying about these things is to put theories in front of reality. Observed reality always trumps theory, always, no exceptions, ever. There may be times when observational technique should be evaluated to confirm the disagreement is valid, but that is different and reflected in your 3rd question.
 
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