ULUL Stainless/Portless 6x45 16" AR15 Barrel Group Buy NOW CLOSED

FYI, I'm taking the family and dog cross country the next 2 weeks, backpacking and camping CO and UT. Will update if I hear from Satern as I'm able.

(Had the kids packing meals and gear tonight)

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Mine was delayed in the mail but finally arrived last week while I was out of town. Just ran home from elk camp to get a couple things done around the house. My barrel weighed in at 18.4oz. Just dropped her in and tossed an arbitrary load of 87 vmax over 24 grains of Tac @ 2.290” and fired 10 break in shots. After zeroing the scope I fired a 5 shot group with the final 5. I was shooting kinda quick off my tailgate off a moving blanket piled up so not the greatest setup. About 2-2.5moa but a couple called fliers. I came home and made one of the fired cases into a comparator case and checked lengths. Looks like I was just over .100” jump for the vmax so I will stretch it out to 2.355” next. I will clean and do a bit more break in, then load development. My Rangecraft and all my other shooting gear is up at elk camp so I will do more extensive testing when we are home for good.

Bullet length followed by OAL to lands

95 nbt 1.120” : to lands 2.430”
95 sst 1.118” : to lands 2.386”
90 nbt 1.072” : to lands 2.415”
87 vmax 1.040” : to lands 2.395”

If anyone has good loads to try with the 87 vmax or preferably the 95 nbt, I am all ears. Finding max charges all over the place on the net. I have most of the good 223 or Grendel powders on hand. My preference would be for something like 8208, Tac, Varget but I also have cfe223, Lever, H335, AR Comp, RL15.5, Stabal match, a little Benchmark and maybe a few others.
 
Update from Satern yesterday:

I just got the barrels rifled. I should have somthing for you here in the next few weeks.

This ends the update. Also, I'm back on the grid so will keep everyone up to date.

Anyone shot theirs much? I put a few through it load testing, but that's it.
 
Update from Satern yesterday:

I just got the barrels rifled. I should have somthing for you here in the next few weeks.

This ends the update. Also, I'm back on the grid so will keep everyone up to date.

Anyone shot theirs much? I put a few through it load testing, but that's it.
I’ve got a load with TAC that shoots about an inch at 2640 fps. Trying to let the barrel cool between shots more (it seems to get pretty warm, not surprising), but I really like it so far.
 
Just checked in with Satern and heard back the following:

"I've got them back in line to be contoured and I had to take some time off so I am behind a bit. I will see about bumping them up and trying to get them done next week. Sorry about that."
 
If ya’ll decide to run another batch, I’d be in for one. I missed the first time around.
 
Another update:

Yes sir, been a hectic week around here but they are next up to be chambered. I will push for them to go next week. Im going to see if we can chamber at some point tomorrow. After that i'll have them out within 2 days. Thanks for being patient!!
 
Another update:

Yes sir, been a hectic week around here but they are next up to be chambered. I will push for them to go next week. Im going to see if we can chamber at some point tomorrow. After that i'll have them out within 2 days. Thanks for being patient!!
Sounds like they are getting close! Thanks for the update.
 
Has anyone shot their barrels? I haven't grouped mine; just sighted it in. I heard from one member who was having a hard time getting his to group - would like any other feedback you all have.

Also, anyone measure freebore?
 
Update:

Good afternoon! Just a heads up on the barrel status. I've got them headspace, and back in line to be engraved. After that I just have to buff them off and make them look pretty. Just a few more days and they will be ready to ship.
 
Has anyone shot their barrels? I haven't grouped mine; just sighted it in. I heard from one member who was having a hard time getting his to group - would like any other feedback you all have.

Also, anyone measure freebore?

I haven't measured freebore, but I've put 100 round thru mine so far.

So far, honestly, my accuracy has been dismal. The only load I've come close to getting a group with, shooting 87gr V-Max was running 2330fps & that was 4 rounds into 2" Anything approaching 2600 has been around 8-9 inches (again, only 4 rounds)
I'm going to put more through it, trying to get the velocity I'm looking for (2650 would be my ideal minimum) & see where I can go from there.
I'm having to load well over book to get even close.
I've tried TAC, X-terminator & CFE223 so far. I'm told that H335 or 8208XBR are 'the' powders, but TAC & X-term are right there on the burn rate charts 😟
 
I’ve got a load with TAC that shoots about an inch at 2640 fps. Trying to let the barrel cool between shots more (it seems to get pretty warm, not surprising), but I really like it so far.
Would you mind PM-ing your load data please?
I'm having a hell of a time with mine.
 
My results have also been very dismal. I have tried everything I can with 87 vmax, 95 NBT and 95 TMK. I have tried H335, Tac, 8208, Benchmark, Lever, H4895 and 3 different primers. I have tried 2.365” oal, modded my upper and lower to get to 2.400” and today even tried single loading the TMK at 2.500”. I got 1 single 3/4” 3 shot group a few weeks ago with the 95 nbt and Tac which I could not duplicate. I too have had to go way over book to get velocity but it won’t group at any charge. I would say 3-4” is the average 3 shot group, nothing worth going past 3 shots. I even swapped scopes today to a known good Trijicon. I basically have around 200 rounds of bang my head against the wall load development. I am seeing radially lines in my brass (mid body) and it looks like the same marks in the chamber like rough machining. A couple pieces of brass have split radially at those marks. Saami spec for the neck portion of the chamber should be .270”. A loaded round measures .265” and a fired case is .275-.276”! That’s a lot of growth and I am guessing that is why the brass is getting beat up and probably where the velocity loss is coming from. It also appears to have an extra long freebore. I will add my lengths below. At this point it is looking like an expensive tomato stake. At least it shouldn’t rust! It shouldn’t be the profile. My guess is an out of spec reamer, supposedly it was a saami reamer. The Shaw portless was in the 3/4 to 1 1/4” range consistently for 5 shots. No need for any cooling between shots or anything. Only needed to test the one bullet I wanted to use with it and tried 2 or 3 powders that all seemed to work.

Distance to lands
87 vmax 2.395” (tried 2.300, 2.365 and 2.385”)
90 NBT 2.415”
95 sst 2.386”
95 NBT 2.430”
95 TMK 2.580” (nearly falling out)
 
My results have also been very dismal. I have tried everything I can with 87 vmax, 95 NBT and 95 TMK. I have tried H335, Tac, 8208, Benchmark, Lever, H4895 and 3 different primers. I have tried 2.365” oal, modded my upper and lower to get to 2.400” and today even tried single loading the TMK at 2.500”. I got 1 single 3/4” 3 shot group a few weeks ago with the 95 nbt and Tac which I could not duplicate. I too have had to go way over book to get velocity but it won’t group at any charge. I would say 3-4” is the average 3 shot group, nothing worth going past 3 shots. I even swapped scopes today to a known good Trijicon. I basically have around 200 rounds of bang my head against the wall load development. I am seeing radially lines in my brass (mid body) and it looks like the same marks in the chamber like rough machining. A couple pieces of brass have split radially at those marks. Saami spec for the neck portion of the chamber should be .270”. A loaded round measures .265” and a fired case is .275-.276”! That’s a lot of growth and I am guessing that is why the brass is getting beat up and probably where the velocity loss is coming from. It also appears to have an extra long freebore. I will add my lengths below. At this point it is looking like an expensive tomato stake. At least it shouldn’t rust! It shouldn’t be the profile. My guess is an out of spec reamer, supposedly it was a saami reamer. The Shaw portless was in the 3/4 to 1 1/4” range consistently for 5 shots. No need for any cooling between shots or anything. Only needed to test the one bullet I wanted to use with it and tried 2 or 3 powders that all seemed to work.

Distance to lands
87 vmax 2.395” (tried 2.300, 2.365 and 2.385”)
90 NBT 2.415”
95 sst 2.386”
95 NBT 2.430”
95 TMK 2.580” (nearly falling out)
Not what I was hoping to hear, but I appreciate you sharing your experience. My order is in the second batch so I don't even have it in hand yet but this has me concerned.
 
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