Ultralight Ultralight Rifles

[Welldone]

Ok ok, I know that I’m just dreaming,but……… What about a .410 shotgun ULUL. anybody done that yet?

 

[ACHILLES]

The Rossi Tuffy 410 single shot is 2.95lbs

 

[Ferrulewax]

The Rossi Tuffy 410 single shot is 2.95lbs

yep. throw a small red dot on and its gtg. I have also considered purchasing the "kids" tuffy rifle and having it threaded for a choke tube. That would cut off about 8" and probably a couple of ounces. In the end I decided it probably wasn't worth it. If you want it even lighter then don't use the stock LOP extention, but it's going to be cramped

Just looking at my spreadsheet, the tuffy turkey with a riton optic and a very lightweight sling (probably 2.5 ounces total in additions) is 59.4 ounces on my scale.

Per Rossi Website:
Tuffy Turkey: 58.8oz

Tuffy (regular): 47.2 oz

Rossi Brawler: 36.8 oz

 

[KyleR1985]

I have a 6x45 handi in process. It won’t be ULUL…

But it got the wheels turning on getting there. This doesn’t include 6-7 ounces for a stub. But with that, microprism, and some lightening of things, bet I can be under 4.5 all in.

 

[ACHILLES]

yep. throw a small red dot on and its gtg. I have also considered purchasing the "kids" tuffy rifle and having it threaded for a choke tube. That would cut off about 8" and probably a couple of ounces. In the end I decided it probably wasn't worth it. If you want it even lighter then don't use the stock LOP extention, but it's going to be cramped

Just looking at my spreadsheet, the tuffy turkey with a riton optic and a very lightweight sling (probably 2.5 ounces total in additions) is 59.4 ounces on my scale.

Per Rossi Website:
Tuffy Turkey: 58.8oz

Tuffy (regular): 47.2 oz

Rossi Brawler: 36.8 oz

Would be a great carry quail gun for me.

 

[ezwy]

For those who have done the gas block backwards, does it block all of the gas? Or should I be looking at getting a tap and screw?

 

[Taudisio]

For those who have done the gas block backwards, does it block all of the gas? Or should I be looking at getting a tap and screw?

Not speaking for everyone, but I have some carbon that leaks out of mine.

 

[Tailwind5sw]

I used a piece of 3/4od 5/8 id 4130 tube. Slid it it on the gas block seat wet with high temp paint. Has not leaked in 50 rounds.

 

[KyleR1985]

I found this stock last night and had to share--4.1 oz and $125. A lighter castle nut or redesigned part with no castle nut could drop that weight lower.

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CP Buttstock - CPFIREARMS LLC

CP Buttstock is 3 way adjustable for all none buffer tube systems.

cpfirearmsllc.com

It has me thinking I need to get a 3D printer. I've long been on the fence, and this might be the item that pushes me over.

You’re a bad influence.

A few pictures. One note - if your BCG isn’t cut down, this stock won’t work for you. ID too small.

It weighs an ounce more than a farrowtech and aluminum A2(no castle but).

The butt weighs .2 more than farrowtech.

I personally don’t enjoy the angle of the farrowtech(not enough to not use it), so the adjustable feature is nice.


All the polymer and carbon and foam has eliminated the main reason I wouldn’t use a black gun to hunt - cold loud metal.



I can’t get past how all this stuff feels “consumable” and I should expect it to fail.


If anyone has any questions about it or need a measurement let me know.

 

[4090Sharps]

I can’t get past how all this stuff feels “consumable” and I should expect it to fail.

Culturally, as hunters, I think we're all conditioned to expect our rifles to last in perpetuity and hand them down as heirlooms, an investment.

I've never been sentimental about objects in that way, but I still find myself influenced by the predominant hunting culture which leaves me feeling biased against my AR's because they're seen as a (more) consumable grouping of parts that make up a tool, instead of a whole, enduring, hunting rifle.

That sentiment and timeline is probably accelerated with lightweight, less durable parts.

 

[passinggas33]

You’re a bad influence.

A few pictures. One note - if your BCG isn’t cut down, this stock won’t work for you. ID too small.

It weighs an ounce more than a farrowtech and aluminum A2(no castle but).

The butt weighs .2 more than farrowtech.

I personally don’t enjoy the angle of the farrowtech(not enough to not use it), so the adjustable feature is nice.


All the polymer and carbon and foam has eliminated the main reason I wouldn’t use a black gun to hunt - cold loud metal.



I can’t get past how all this stuff feels “consumable” and I should expect it to fail.


If anyone has any questions about it or need a measurement let me know.


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I thought the advantage of the Farrowtech was that the whole back end was 12oz including the folding adapter?? What does this set up weight with the folding adapter? That’s where the weight seemed to be in all of these setups.

 

[KyleR1985]

I thought the advantage of the Farrowtech was that the whole back end was 12oz including the folding adapter?? What does this set up weight with the folding adapter? That’s where the weight seemed to be in all of these setups.

I might be missing the point?

I just bought the farrow tech butt stock - to go on the back of an a2 tube.



The gun in the picture is 4.5lbs. But I’ve got 20 plus ounces in BCA upper and side charging bcg. I’m not an ULUL kitty yet.

 

[passinggas33]

I might be missing the point?

I just bought the farrow tech butt stock - to go on the back of an a2 tube.



The gun in the picture is 4.5lbs. But I’ve got 20 plus ounces in BCA upper and side charging bcg. I’m not an ULUL kitty yet.

This is just reflecting my naiveness about AR parts. I’m not even sure what an A2 tube is.

I thought if you went with a solo, the back end didn’t even matter. But looking at your set up more closely it’s obviously not a solo. . Sorry for the confusion. Still learning AR here.

 

[KChunter71]

@go4thegusto some really light AR’s in this thread.

 

[Thegman]

What

You’re a bad influence.

A few pictures. One note - if your BCG isn’t cut down, this stock won’t work for you. ID too small.

It weighs an ounce more than a farrowtech and aluminum A2(no castle but).

The butt weighs .2 more than farrowtech.

I personally don’t enjoy the angle of the farrowtech(not enough to not use it), so the adjustable feature is nice.


All the polymer and carbon and foam has eliminated the main reason I wouldn’t use a black gun to hunt - cold loud metal.



I can’t get past how all this stuff feels “consumable” and I should expect it to fail.


If anyone has any questions about it or need a measurement let me know.


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What barrel is on your rifle? It looks skinnier than the Shaw, but maybe that's an optical illusion??

 

[KyleR1985]

What
What barrel is on your rifle? It looks skinnier than the Shaw, but maybe that's an optical illusion??

Shaw.

Optical illusion - caused by the area 419 adapter and thread protector

 

[Thegman]

@go4thegusto some really light AR’s in this thread.

Be careful, if you build one, your other rifles may start to seem too damn heavy and annoying to carry...

 

[passinggas33]

So is the Kidon folding adapter “the” lightweight choice if doing a folding stock? Or have people come up with lighter/better options?